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Old 04-01-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Reminds me of a case in San Diego back in the 70's. Naked guy, wasted on PCP, was acting crazy somewhere. Cops come, and this person suddenly gets into a karate stance. Cop then empties his .357 magnum into the guy and get this, is still standing there. Six rounds and nothing. I believe this is when PDs started using 9mm and .40s
A .357 mag is more powerful than a 9MM, or .40 S&W, but its capacity is only six rounds. Maybe that is your point. Back them cops carried speed loaders which enabled a pretty quick reload of another six rounds.
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Old 04-01-2018, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Predators are not victims when their prey fight back.
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Old 04-01-2018, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Well you can argue that some crimes are misrepresented based on stricter enforcement of the black population, but if you take a crime like murder where there is little doubt these days with DNA evidence, the statistics do show that blacks commit more murders as a percentage of their demographic representation. Again, I believe this to be due to lack of education and poverty which applies to all races. The less education a person has and the poorer they are - especially through multiple generations - the more likely they will be involved in crime whether it be black, white, asian, indigenous, etc..
Black on black crime is mainly due to gangs. Gangs are seen as a way to survive in a ghetto.
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Old 04-02-2018, 03:31 AM
 
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Glad I do not live in the mainland. Our police here seem smarter than to shoot an unarmed man in the back multiple times and claim it was self-defense but bring in domestic terrorists alive. I look at every incident on a case by case basis but the issue is becoming very clear.

The U.S. is going to drive itself into the ground with its double-standard. It seems like cultural problem. It wasn’t that long ago police and others could kill black men and rape their women and young girls with little to no repercussions. Perhaps that has not died out. Very sick.

Many third world nations don’t even have these issues...police letting domestic terrorists buy food on the way into the station but shooting an unarmed father in the back in his grandparents’ backyard. That is backward, fourth-world craziness.
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Old 04-02-2018, 05:38 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Black on black crime is mainly due to gangs. Gangs are seen as a way to survive in a ghetto.
Just curious how many more excuses and rationalizations are in that bag of tricks of yours
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Old 04-02-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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If you or I emptied a revolver or a semi automatic into an attacker or home intruder you can believe the DA would be all over you questioning if it was excessive use of deadly force after the first shot. If the guy didn't have a weapon, you'd likely be screwed. Put a police officer in the same position and he'd most likely never have to worry because he'd have a small of army of police and attorneys defending him.
That's the double standard. And a police officer is supposed to be trained to act calmly in a confrontation, civilians aren't. But those gun magazines still get emptied and shots get fired with almost no hesitation.
I'm not defending this Clark, he was a no good nitwit punk. But he shouldn't have been shot like that, they could have held their fire until they did see a weapon. But , like I said, he was stupid and probably tried to get into the house and didn't want to surrender, ignoring the police. What type of moron takes a cell phone with him while breaking into cars? Was he trying to call his grandparents telling them to let him in? The misery he brought on them is inexcusable.
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Old 04-02-2018, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Glad I do not live in the mainland. Our police here seem smarter than to shoot an unarmed man in the back multiple times and claim it was self-defense but bring in domestic terrorists alive. I look at every incident on a case by case basis but the issue is becoming very clear.

The U.S. is going to drive itself into the ground with its double-standard. It seems like cultural problem. It wasn’t that long ago police and others could kill black men and rape their women and young girls with little to no repercussions. Perhaps that has not died out. Very sick.

Many third world nations don’t even have these issues...police letting domestic terrorists buy food on the way into the station but shooting an unarmed father in the back in his grandparents’ backyard. That is backward, fourth-world craziness.
We have already established in this thread that Stephon was facing the police when they fired. Video evidence proves that. Stephon was a father and was unarmed at the time they fired but he had been committing crimes. ran from the police, and was reported by two separate individuals that he was armed.

As to your other assertion: Not that long ago? Was it yesterday? Last month? Last year? Was it in your lifetime? Bad people exist. Not all police are bad. It was not "standard police procedure" to kill black men and rape their women and young girls. Nor would I assume it is standard black man procedure to kill white men, rape their women and young girls but it happens during home invasions. Criminal activity is criminal activity no matter if they wear a fancy blue uniform or not.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...home/77570824/
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Just curious how many more excuses and rationalizations are in that bag of tricks of yours
No excuses and no rationalizations..just facts

"Highly populated areas accounted for the vast majority of gang homicides: nearly 67 percent occurred in cities with populations over 100,000, and 17 percent occurred in suburban counties in 2012.
The number of gang-related homicides decreased 2 percent from 2010 to 2011 and then increased by 28 percent from 2011 to 2012 in cities with populations over 100,000. In a typical year in the so-called “gang capitals” of Chicago and Los Angeles, around half of all homicides are gang-related; these two cities alone accounted for approximately one in four gang homicides recorded in the NYGS from 2011 to 2012.
Among agencies serving rural counties and smaller cities that reported gang activity, around 75 percent reported zero gang-related homicides. Five percent or less of all gang homicides occurred in these areas annually. Overall, these results demonstrate conclusively that gang violence is greatly concentrated in the largest cities across the United States."

https://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/s...-gang-problems

"Gun-related homicide is most prevalent among gangs and during the commission of felony crimes. In 1980, the percentage of homicides caused by firearms during arguments was about the same as from gang involvement (about 70 percent), but by 1993, nearly all gang-related homicides involved guns (95 percent), whereas the percentage of gun homicides related to arguments remained relatively constant. The percentage of gang-related homicides caused by guns fell slightly to 92 percent in 2008, but the percentage of homicides caused by firearms during the commission of a felony rose from about 60 percent to about 74 percent from 1980 to 2005."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun...s/welcome.aspx

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"90.1 percent of black victims of homicide were killed by other blacks, while 83.5 percent of whites were killed by other whites. While no life is inconsequential, the statistical evidence shows that—just as for blacks when it comes to black-on-black crime—whites are mostly victimized by other whites, with the vast majority of white murders committed by whites. This is because most victims of crime personally know their assailants. And while this is a truth across racial boundaries, no one ever talks about “white-on-white crime.” https://www.theroot.com/why-we-never...wer-1819092337
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: New York City
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No excuses and no rationalizations..just facts
So wait, if these homicides are due to gang violence, how does that change the statistics?

Doesn't matter why these people are homicidal, the numbers state that they are so naturally a higher proportion will have interactions with the police and ergo the higher proportion of fatal interactions.

The black population is being stopped and unfortunately shot completely in line with their involvement in criminal activity. They are not being targeted because they are black, they are being targeted because they are criminals
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Old 04-02-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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So wait, if these homicides are due to gang violence, how does that change the statistics?
Please go re-read posts 615 and 617
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They are not being targeted because they are black, they are being targeted because they are criminals
most black people ARE NOT criminals.
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