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Old 04-02-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I would like to know how "righteous" his activities were that night and on other occasions.
That remains one of the more interesting questions. But the authorities are providing no answers. My favorite is where did the window busting tool go...he was not doing that bare handed or with a cell phone. So where is that "tool"? No answers.

I get more and more suspicious that the authorities are not releasing all they know. You would think they would want to pin down that this was a bad guy even if it might have been a bad shoot.

Other occasions is not relevant..
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The guy is a nationally renowned pathologist. Likely outpoints anyone in Sacramento. You get the best available and object because you got the wrong answer.

This is not difficult stuff. You look at the holes in the person and determine in what direction the bullet was going. Simple.

But too much for those who know the truth whether it is true or not.
According to his report; red are in, green are out. He has two entry holes on the left side of his torso. If he is lying with his right side towards the police, he cannot have entry holes on the left side unless they went in before he fell to his knees.
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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you think:

If the black population would:

graduate school, I mean 100%
excel in colleges degrees
zero crime
zero out of wedlock birth
quit hanging out at night
quit drinking, drugs
attended church weekly
took care of their family
kept employment
became the beacon of society
you think in twenty years, they would not be profiled
lol and when did any other race do all of that ^ ?

funny how people of other races don't have to comply with your standards in order to avoid being profiled
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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According to his report; red are in, green are out. He has two entry holes on the left side of his torso. If he is lying with his right side towards the police, he cannot have entry holes on the left side unless they went in before he fell to his knees.
Rather than speculate, why not rely upon Omalu's findings?

"Stephon Clark was shot eight times, with seven bullets entering from his back, according to results of an independent autopsy announced Friday morning.

The Clark family hired Bennet Omalu — a nationally renowned physician — to perform the autopsy. He discussed his findings during a press conference.

“You could reasonably conclude that he received seven gunshot wounds from his back,” Omalu said. “He was shot in the back.”

Omalu made the case that Clark had his back to the officers when the first bullet hit him in the left side of his back.

“The proposition that has been presented that he was assailing the officers — meaning he was facing the officers — is inconsistent with the prevailing forensic evidence, as documented at autopsy,” Omalu said.

Omalu says that Clark was hit by a total of eight shots by two Sacramento police officers on the night of March 18: five in the back and back shoulder, one in the back of his neck, one on his back side, and one in his left leg."

Independent Autopsy Finds Stephon Clark Shot Eight Times, Most In The Back - capradio.org

"Clark was also shot in the leg, Omalu said. He said the gunshot wound to the leg happened when Clark was either falling to or on the ground." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stephon...ference-today/
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:08 PM
 
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All criminal mischief and subsequent run-ins with the Police carry a small chance of death, especially if you run.

That's just the absolute nature of the situation. Any further discussion is a complete waste of time.

If you don't wish to risk death then do not commit crimes wherein the police are going to have to approach you cautiously, and definitely do not run. /thread.
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Old 04-03-2018, 02:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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All criminal mischief and subsequent run-ins with the Police carry a small chance of death, especially if you run.

That's just the absolute nature of the situation. Any further discussion is a complete waste of time.

If you don't wish to risk death then do not commit crimes wherein the police are going to have to approach you cautiously, and definitely do not run. /thread.
You don't get to make the rules luckily. It's about the rights of the individual and if there is a threat. Running away from police isn't a legitimate reason for law enforcement to shoot.
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:40 AM
 
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We have already established in this thread that Stephon was facing the police when they fired. Video evidence proves that. Stephon was a father and was unarmed at the time they fired but he had been committing crimes. ran from the police, and was reported by two separate individuals that he was armed.

As to your other assertion: Not that long ago? Was it yesterday? Last month? Last year? Was it in your lifetime? Bad people exist. Not all police are bad. It was not "standard police procedure" to kill black men and rape their women and young girls. Nor would I assume it is standard black man procedure to kill white men, rape their women and young girls but it happens during home invasions. Criminal activity is criminal activity no matter if they wear a fancy blue uniform or not.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...home/77570824/
The opposite was established. That people such as yourself make excuses for this nonsense make you part of the problem. Spare me the rewriting of American history the way you’ve tried to rewrite the facts in this case.

Also spare me your speech about police. I work around police all the time, outside the mainland. Some of my closest friends are police or former police. And I will be the first to say that the mainland has some serious issues. They will too.
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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All criminal mischief and subsequent run-ins with the Police carry a small chance of death, especially if you run.

That's just the absolute nature of the situation. Any further discussion is a complete waste of time.

If you don't wish to risk death then do not commit crimes wherein the police are going to have to approach you cautiously, and definitely do not run. /thread.
Are you familiar with the Amadou Diallo shooting in NYC a few years back? In a case of mistaken identity New York cops shot unarmed Amadou Diallo 42 times (they actually managed to hit him a few times) as he stood in front of his apartment building. His crime? Attempting to show the cops his identification. How about the Philando Castile shooting? The Daniel Shavers shooting? None of these victims were running. All were attempting to comply with the cop's commands. They were shot anyway.
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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All criminal mischief and subsequent run-ins with the Police carry a small chance of death, especially if you run.

That's just the absolute nature of the situation. Any further discussion is a complete waste of time.

If you don't wish to risk death then do not commit crimes wherein the police are going to have to approach you cautiously, and definitely do not run. /thread.
That's only true in the sense that all people have a chance of being randomly or accidentally shot by Police even if they are the victim of a crime. There is no logical explanation for killing a suspect who has, or is about to commit a minor crime.

What disturbs me about the allegations that this suspect was the one with the pry bar seen by the helicopter is that there is no contiguous video footage of Clark between the time he had a pry bar and when he jumped the fence into his grandmother's yard without anything in his hands, can you say with any certainty that it was even the same guy because I can't
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Old 04-03-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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Please. The UCR system is based upon the reporting of Police Depts. But it is well established that they have an anti Black and anti minority bias.
Garbage in - Garbage out.
I would believe the reports between cities are at least mostly proportional to reality...but the accuracy of white/black crime? You have to be kidding.

How would police bias affect data for murder rates? Are they putting blacks in prison for killing imaginary victims with no body to show for it?
You will have to do a lot better than simply reject statistics because you think they are "biased".
Note these stats didnt change much after a black president and a black attorney general. Are they biased?
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