Smoking ban poll. Please read question before answering. (state, laws, Colorado)

[AguaDulce]

Originally Posted by greywar

Sadly no "I like it just the way it is" option.

The indoor ban is there for a reason, there is no point dredging all of this up any more. And I have no desire to add more to it. This is working.

New York City is trying to institute an outdoor ban on sidewalks. This is what precipitated my desire to create a poll.

[TheBaldBlur]

Originally Posted by AguaDulce

I'm talking about a bar that is for adults only and permits smoking on the entire premises.

Oh, I see. In that case, my position is "Let the owners decide" ... and I'll choose to go elsewhere.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by greywar

Sadly no "I like it just the way it is" option.

The indoor ban is there for a reason, there is no point dredging all of this up any more. And I have no desire to add more to it. This is working.

How is it working?

People have guns to their heads telling them they can't smoke on their own property.

I know the violence-worship is strong with you but isn't this a bit far?

[AguaDulce]

Originally Posted by dothetwist

They tried various ways to segregate smoking v. non-smoking areas within bars/restaurants and they never worked. The current indoor ban works. Why change it??

Outdoor ban should be implemented where food is sold, including at bars that serve food.

The reason to change it is that it has had an adverse effect of pushing smokers outside into shared airspace.

Support is growing for outdoor bans.

[greywar]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

How is it working?

People have guns to their heads telling them they can't smoke on their own property.

I know the violence-worship is strong with you but isn't this a bit far?

They can smoke in their home, its when they run a business that they have to follow rules.

Oh noes! The horror! They're holding guns to my head to not give folks cancer!

I know the accusation that everything is about holding a gun to your head worship is strong with you but isnt this a bit far?

[greywar]

Originally Posted by AguaDulce

New York City is trying to institute an outdoor ban on sidewalks. This is what precipitated my desire to create a poll.

Interesting. Still the same answer-Im fine with how it is now. I would not support expanding it at this time to include more areas.

[texan2yankee]

I don't smoke, but the owner should be free from government regulations to make marketing choices for her/his own business. Let the market decide if the owner made the right choice based on sales and customers.

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by AguaDulce

Now that smokers have been pushed outside by the indoor smoking ban, thus creating a new perceived hazard in shared airspace, AND most affected tavern owners haven't suffered financial losses as a result of banning smoking, could you support a modification to the ban on indoor smoking to allow tavern owners to decide?

At this point, only a small percentage of such businesses would go back.

I am not talking about any other type of business. Only adult businesses, like taverns, bars, etc. And they would have to display proper warning signage on the front door.

Smokers:

Enjoy your addiction.

Just step outside.

It's the law.

[phma]

No,

and don't tell me what to do. I'll decide.

[AguaDulce]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

Smokers:

Enjoy your addiction.

Just step outside.

It's the law.

As I said in another post, the ban has been extended to outdoor areas in many jurisdictions. NYC is currently considering a sidewalk ban.

If a few bar owners decide to permit smoking, can't you just avoid those bars? It's easier to avoid the inside of a bar than a sidewalk.