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View Poll Results: Modify indoor smoking ban? Please read post before answering.
Modify indoor smoking ban to let bar owners (adult-only bars) decide AND institute outdoor ban to protect shared airspace. 33 50.00%
Keep indoor ban as is and add outdoor ban. 12 18.18%
Keep indoor ban, add outdoor ban, and add ban on smoking in private residences and cars when children are present. 21 31.82%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-31-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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The bar owner should decide and then customers can choose to patronize or not.
Too much freedom for you penguin?

Smokers have the freedom to walk outside. Whoever thinks its a good idea to smoke inside an enclosed environment where everywhere is ingesting is stupid. Lol that smoke came out of your mouth, no I do not want to breathe it. Children should absolutely not be questionable, if this is a place with children especially, ban it. Why ruin their health in a smokebox so their parent can get a fix or neighboring guest?
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:06 PM
 
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I am a life long NON-SMOKER. My answer wasn’t on the choices. I’m in favor of abolishing government smoking bans on privately owned businesses and dwellings. The decisions should have always been left up to the free market and the individual business/property owners. Now that the government took control of this part of our lives, some cities have gone so far as to ban smoking in outdoor cafes and patios, sidewalks, city parks, beaches, attached dwellings, and some have even proposed bans on smoking indoors within your own private unattached home. I once argued that once they enact laws on the grounds of public health then it would open the door to other such laws. Look at the attempt to limit soda sizes, banning of trans fats from restaurants. What’s next?
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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am an X smoker, hate the smell of it anymore and shutter to think young kids are still picking up the habit, but I still think it should be left to the discretion of a business if they will allow smoking or not.
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Let's just ban every damn thing and stop everyone from whining wait never mind they will still whine about something.
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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Never smoked. The thing I hate about smoking, is that some folks are careless, about putting out their smokes. We just had a horrible fire in our town. A smoker put the cig in a planter at a townhome development, and the embers were not out. The thing caught fire and spread to a gas meter and destroyed 20 townhomes. The smoker is not being charged, but will have to live with that for the rest of their lives. 70 people are out of homes. No one was hurt, some animals died.

Just make sure your flames are out. Those things catch like wildfire. Does not seem like a hard thing to do. Squish out that cig.
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Old 03-31-2018, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Business owners should decide what they will allow in their business. If you don't like it, don't go there.
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Old 03-31-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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No one should have the right to poison kids with smoke. even their own kids.
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Old 03-31-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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No one should have the right to poison kids with smoke. even their own kids.
This is true. In fact, no one should have the right to poison kids with anything, even their own kids.
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Old 03-31-2018, 03:02 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Smoking is a health hazard, not only to the smoker, but anyone who is subjected to the smoke ("second hand smoke"). This is not even arguable. There has been plenty of research to back it up.

Not only is it a health hazard, it is rude to smoke around other people who are not smokers.

For the record, I have never smoked in my life, and my wife quit "cold turkey" many years ago after her doctor told her she was not the type of person who could smoke and not suffer bad effects (like cancer). Her brother died of lung cancer a few years ago. He was young (about 50, I think).
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Old 03-31-2018, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Great questions, what's next remove children from homes where a parent may decide to have a drink with alcohol?
If drinking made children inebriated, sure.
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