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Old 04-10-2018, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
It’s good to be skeptical of what the government tells us without proof AND when they have a motive to lie (total war in Syria).

All we have right now is theories because the evidence hasn’t been shown.
People like "spectator” are textbook examples of neoconservative thought, or lack thereof.
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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This thread is shot full of conspiracy theorists and "false flag" pushers. And these two groups of fools contradict each other. One says that these gas massacres never happened, while the other says yes it did but not by Assad..... the rebels somehow managed to do it. The gas canisters were dropped from helicopter in this latest attack. Other gas attacks were launched from jets. The rebels have neither helicopters nor jets.

And then these fools finally get to their unsurprising revelation......ISRAEL DID IT!

This "rebeldor" has weaved himself in and out through this entire thread. Conspiracy theorist extraordinaire. The quotes above clearly show from where he comes.
You should quote your source. My guess it is CNN:
According to activist groups, helicopters dropped barrel bombs filled with toxic gas on the town situated on the outskirts of the capital Damascus, killing dozens of civilians and wounding scores more.
This more than likely fake news. The same stories of 2014. In reality the "activists" cnn is mentioning is the white helmets, a uk supported organization with links to terrorists.
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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So you think Israel did this?
They are on the list above Syria.

Syria has no incentive to do something that would keep us there. Israel does. Do you disagree?
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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It’s good to be skeptical of what the government tells us without proof AND when they have a motive to lie (total war in Syria).

All we have right now is theories because the evidence hasn’t been shown.
I often wonder even how much control Assad has over the military and the war itself. Assad is not in the best of positions to exert rule, and the military may have gained a substantial amount of power. Given the rather tribal complexities of Syria and this war, I would not be surprised if gassing took place due to nothing other than personal reasons my local military commanders.
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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This thread is shot full of conspiracy theorists and "false flag" pushers. And these two groups of fools contradict each other. One says that these gas massacres never happened, while the other says yes it did but not by Assad..... the rebels somehow managed to do it. The gas canisters were dropped from helicopter in this latest attack. Other gas attacks were launched from jets. The rebels have neither helicopters nor jets.

And then these fools finally get to their unsurprising revelation......ISRAEL DID IT!

This "rebeldor" has weaved himself in and out through this entire thread. Conspiracy theorist extraordinaire. The quotes above clearly show from where he comes.
Syria has no incentive to do something that would keep us there. Israel does. Do you disagree?
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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Assad needs the conflict in Syria to continue to to be deemed critical by superpowers. That keeps the money flowing and keeps him relevant. Once the conflict is no more, Russia will quietly put him in a cage and take over control of Syria and he will, at best, be a puppet living on a tiny salary that is a fraction of what he has now.
Russia spun it's wheels in Afghanistan and would in Syria also. Just like us.
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Old 04-10-2018, 02:54 PM
 
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Well, so Russia just vetoed a US backed draft resolution to have an independent investigation of the use of chemical weapons in Syria.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/polit...ira/index.html
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:05 PM
 
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Well, so Russia just vetoed a US backed draft resolution to have an independent investigation of the use of chemical weapons in Syria.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/polit...ira/index.html
And the US vetoed a Russian backed draft.

The US backed one had 12 in favor, the Russian backed one had 6 in favor.
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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Well, so Russia just vetoed a US backed draft resolution to have an independent investigation of the use of chemical weapons in Syria.
There is no such thing.
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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Anyone else think it's odd that every time America talks about leaving Syria or softening its stance on Assad, there ends up being a chemical attack? And supposedly it's Assad who is ordering these attacks. If he's the one ordering them, why would he time them like this? And he also always seems to use the chemicals on the wee children, for maximum outrage. Does he want America there? Does he want the US funding his enemies and kicking his ass militarily? It doesn't make sense.
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Yeah, coincidence
No way to prove it of course, but my hunch is that there is little outrage over the Syria thing because few actually believe anything the MSM tells them any more. I doubt Assad is behind the chemical attack, if there even was one (Russia claims there wasn't one), and I also have strong suspicion that Russia wasn't really responsible for the attack on the Russian spy in Britain. There seems to be an agenda they're pushing to neatly corral Russia/Iran/Syria into the "bad guy" corner with a bunch of cons and put-ons, which is usually how they do it when they want to play war but don't have any good or genuine excuse for doing so. Con the idiot masses with false flag attacks and bogus stories to whip them into a frenzy into supporting whatever craven plan they're up to.
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