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Old 04-09-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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A question for those here who believe Putin and think the chemical attacks are fake news designed only to increase the US involvement there.

I am not naive to the fact that the US government lies all the time. However...

How was it done? Why is the MSM who hates Trump and would dream of catching him in a international conspiracy silent on this? Who was involved?

I am all ears.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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A question for those here who believe Putin and think the chemical attacks are fake news designed only to increase the US involvement there.

I am not naive to the fact that the US government lies all the time. However...

How was it done? Why is the MSM who hates Trump and would dream of catching him in a international conspiracy silent on this? Who was involved?

I am all ears.
Trump wants the troops out and please the american people. The real people who are in control [rich people, lobbyists, etc.] are the ones supporting terrorists through saudis and other sub-contractors. The goal is the same as in iraq, lybia, and the rest of invaded countries: destabilization, and regime change. Supposedly that will bring "democracy", "peace", "progress", that's the story in the news. The real consequence is more war, terrorism, death and poverty. But it is good news for the military and all its weapons and intelligence industries. They get billions. Other industries benefit indirectly as well.

Your presupposition would be true if hillary was president, who celebrated when gaddaffi was savagely murdered. If anything good can be said about trump is that he really wants to withdraw troops from those wasteful and never-ending wars. He just don't have that power to do so.

If you really want to know how it is done, read the article in the link I posted before
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n24/seymou...sh/whose-sarin

What the UN report actually says is that terrorists, aka "rebels" had access to chemical weapons, and had ceased equipment from the syrian army, munitions/rockets etc. They even have testimony that it was the rebels that used chemical weapons on people, but they don't show this in the news. All they say is that the trajectory of the rockets came from the syrian side. This is the "overwhelming evidence". Which to some of us just doesn't make sense.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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A video to think about:

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video...d6b-TQx6EW.mp4
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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Are you a troll for the u.s war machine? You posted a link to the same video in another thread.

Showing dead children don't prove anything, it only shock people emotionally. It is more likely that the terrorists supported by the west did it in an desperate act for more support, given that they have been almost defeated.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Killing innocent people is never acceptable, what Syria is doing now is premeditated. It is not just collateral damage, it is an effort to wipe out every person.
Are you saying when we drop bombs its not premeditated? Interesting dance you're doing.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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“We struck a deal where we got 100% of the chemical weapons out”

John Kerry on Meet the Press July 20, 2014
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Glass houses...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1kb-PTXUgs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2VJhQsrvJw&t=77s
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:31 PM
 
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Wrong. The winning side commits no crimes. That’s how war works. That’s why it’s something to be avoided.

If Germany won the war you would be learning about all their heroes in the war.
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Wrong. The winning side commits no crimes. That’s how war works. That’s why it’s something to be avoided.

If Germany won the war you would be learning about all their heroes in the war.
How, exactly, did the U.S. taxpayer "win" in Iraq?
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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No one with half a brain believes Assad did this. The US military industrial complex will operate as it operates, but I refuse to feed into it. The Syrian army isn’t going to retake 90% of a district after a months long campaign, and once it’s surrounding the final 10% gas its own people, thus risking further US intervention and jeopardizing their gains. Assad is not stupid. We shouldn’t be either.

Assad is winning the war, his secular government is staying in power, and the US-backed jihadists are all going to meet their fates at the Syrian army’s hands and it’s utterly absurd that any American would desire any other outcome.
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