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Old 04-21-2018, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Esparza is a 46-year-old mechanic for Evolution Fresh, a subsidiary of Starbucks that makes juices and smoothies. He’s taking a class in industrial computing taught by a community college at a local manufacturing plant in the hope it will bump up his wages.

It’s a pretty safe bet. The skills being taught here are in high demand. That’s in part because so much effort has been put into encouraging high school graduates to go to college for academic degrees rather than for training in industrial and other trades that many fields like his face worker shortages.

Now California is spending $6 million on a campaign to revive the reputation of vocational education, and $200 million to improve the delivery of it.
Not exactly news-anyone involved in any type of manufacturing or construction knows this. What is new is that even our media is recognizing the 5 decade long failure of our educational industry to recognize and promote skilled trades. Demand is such that a machinist, electrician or carpenter will make more than many with bachelor's degrees.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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It won't help... There will always be a segment of society that looks down their nose at the guy they call to fix their toilets. At the same time lamenting their MBA in basket weaving won't help them get a job ....
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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It won't help... There will always be a segment of society that looks down their nose at the guy they call to fix their toilets. At the same time lamenting their MBA in basket weaving won't help them get a job ....
Seems to me you're the one looking down on others.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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If you are physically fit and can pass a background check and drug test my company would make you an apprentice and within 3 years you’ll be making 6 figures. But you work OT and shift work and you work in the elements. Americans need to step up because the legal Mexicans we hire are making us look really bad.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Seems to me you're the one looking down on others.
Look down I don't think so...Laugh my keister off? Yes. Feel bad for? Maybe. but not look down.....I see it during the hiring process. People want to work, but come to us with the completely wrong educational background.
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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This is old, but it's apt.

People will go for the trades when we start offering respect (and compensation) to the trades. But respect first...

https://www.wired.com/2013/02/respec...collar-worker/
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:57 AM
 
Location: London
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Working in the trades sounds good in theory, but the injury rate is high and the work is physically demanding, so it's not a career path that can be sustained until age 70 or so.
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Old 04-21-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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And the excuses not to roll in like clockwork....
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Old 04-21-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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Not exactly news-anyone involved in any type of manufacturing or construction knows this. What is new is that even our media is recognizing the 5 decade long failure of our educational industry to recognize and promote skilled trades. Demand is such that a machinist, electrician or carpenter will make more than many with bachelor's degrees.
When I was a teen ager in the 70's they talked about a shortage of tradesmen.

This is not new...it is a continuing trend.
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Old 04-21-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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It won't help... There will always be a segment of society that looks down their nose at the guy they call to fix their toilets. At the same time lamenting their MBA in basket weaving won't help them get a job ....
We are a total white collar family but never ever looked down on any guy willing to fix our toilets, appliances, house, etc.

I can't speak for all white collar --- but the deepest respect for anyone who is able to do repairs of any kind in the home.

I don't believe it is a lack of respect for trades, I think it is a unwillingness to put in the 'hard' work.
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