Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
27,606 posts, read 14,691,401 times
Reputation: 9169

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado^ View Post
Why doesn't she pass along her great deal to the Airbnb people? Double standard?

This women is nothing more than a thieving, hypocritical fraud. Just like all the posters that support such communist non-sense.
$50/day is still a steal for temporary lodging in NYC, that is Motel 6 prices in most cities.

I remember the Hilton on 53rd St in midtown Manhattan was charging $250/night back in 1995 (don't know how much it is now)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:09 AM
 
3,105 posts, read 3,847,362 times
Reputation: 4066
Quote:
Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
$50/day is still a steal for temporary lodging in NYC, that is Motel 6 prices in most cities.

I remember the Hilton on 53rd St in midtown Manhattan was charging $250/night back in 1995 (don't know how much it is now)
Oh, I see. She's allowed to make a profit, but the land lord isn't.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:10 AM
 
7,519 posts, read 2,824,258 times
Reputation: 3941
Quote:
Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
$50/day is still a steal for temporary lodging in NYC, that is Motel 6 prices in most cities.

I remember the Hilton on 53rd St in midtown Manhattan was charging $250/night back in 1995 (don't know how much it is now)
The $1500 rent the owners are not getting is likely on the cheaper side in NYC as well.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:11 AM
 
7,519 posts, read 2,824,258 times
Reputation: 3941
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado^ View Post
Oh, I see. She's allowed to make a profit, but the land lord isn't.
This right here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:21 AM
 
19,899 posts, read 12,189,973 times
Reputation: 17622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado^ View Post
Why doesn't she pass along her great deal to the Airbnb people? Double standard?

This women is nothing more than a thieving, hypocritical fraud. Just like all the posters that support such communist non-sense.
Indeed she is. She got an invalid, who she called a vegetable, just 3 weeks before he died to adopt her as a daughter at 58 years old to get his pension and life insurance.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
15,754 posts, read 7,630,360 times
Reputation: 2576
Quote:
Originally Posted by redwood66 View Post
This right here.
or the landlord is allowed to make a profit, but the tenants aren't.

The person knew what they were getting into when they bought the units. Say there are 100 units, this is but one, who is not moving out. The rest will eventually make the $1500 or $1800 and the person investing knows this, they didn't get into it blind.

They can sell, if they are not happy with the profit margin.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
15,754 posts, read 7,630,360 times
Reputation: 2576
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowne View Post
Indeed she is. She got an invalid, who she called a vegetable, just 3 weeks before he died to adopt her as a daughter at 58 years old to get his pension and life insurance.
and a landlord can harass their tenets to get them to move?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:27 AM
 
19,899 posts, read 12,189,973 times
Reputation: 17622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellis Bell View Post
or the landlord is allowed to make a profit, but the tenants aren't.

The person knew what they were getting into when they bought the units. Say there are 100 units, this is but one, who is not moving out. The rest will eventually make the $1500 or $1800 and the person investing knows this, they didn't get into it blind.

They can sell, if they are not happy with the profit margin.
If you bothered to read the article you would know this is a 6 unit building. The elderly couple bought it in 1980
and expected once this old man who had lived there 85 years died they could raise the rent to market rate. And yes, due to this scheme by the con, the elderly immigrant couple are selling their property. The grifter is hoping for a big payout from whomever purchases the building.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:29 AM
 
16,751 posts, read 8,739,356 times
Reputation: 19578
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moth View Post
Winner of the Post of the Year Award.

Especially this:

Funny how leftists always envision a Utopian, fair, and benevolent government controlling everything for the best interest of every citizens. But did you ever think why the leaders of such communist countries not live exactly like the people they control?
That is kind of you to say, and hopefully it can help enlighten some who think in different terms.
,
,
,
,


Oh wait, apparently not with the person I replied to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
Oh please

I'm a taxpayer and I work, and have massively improved my station in life in just the last 5 years (at least from an income standpoint).

But at the same time, it seems that every time I make more money, rent and other expenses keep going up, so it's like I'm working harder just to stay at the same level rather than improve; while I'm sure those who aren't earning more are finding themselves downwardly mobile.

Heck good example, my first apartment rented for $700/month just 5 years ago (don't live there anymore), but the same apartment in the same complex now is $1,000/month. So if I had still been living there, I would have had to earn an extra $900/month just to still afford the lease

Finally, not all of us are business owners; and it shouldn't only be business owners who can attain lodging. Us workers need a place to live as well...
I think you skimmed over my post and missed the bigger picture.
We are all in the same boat dealing with rent increases, cost of living, fuel, etc. as those things are constantly in flux going in both directions(typically higher).
I would also note something advantageous to your point that you didn't allude to. Going into a higher tax bracket which can pair down your tangible profit margins. For some people who know they are unlikely to advance significantly higher (based on limitations without expansion), they will purposely stay in the lower tax bracket, even if it means less gross income without enough deductions to make it worth their effort.
Hence the reason cutting taxes (especially for small businesses) in many cases creates more jobs and fuels expansion which everyone benefits from.

This of course is not what we are talking about. We are talking about people being able to game the system, and those who cheer them on.
Then, in defense of the indefensible, you and a few others extrapolate how the big bad capitalistic system (i.e. the man) would otherwise make this persons rent so high, that only the 1% could afford to live there. I've got news for you,,,,,the average 1% is paying well above $1,800 per month in rent/mortgage payments. The ridiculous example you gave is closer to what they pay every month, but that of course is not the point either.

As to your last comment, most business owners don't just magically become that way. My Dad worked for the same employer for 36 years and never once considered starting a business. The closest he came to owning one was wanting to buy an existing bar, but he could not afford the $5,000 it would have taken to buy it back in the day.
I started with regular jobs, and worked a long time before I could save the capitol to start leasing a share of a company for a better return on my time/labor. Then saving more from that, continued on to peaks and valleys.
Many a business owner fails, and they are left with nothing, but you need to take risks to get out of the 9-5 work cycle (if you so choose). So they start up again. The point is that I never lived in a tent nor slum just because I didn't own a business. Becoming a business owner takes effort, otherwise most would do it. Yet I hear millennial's today saying "sure I'd like to be a doctor or lawyer, but who wants to go to school for that long".
I know a guy who was poor yet worked his way through medical school. He came home after school, and his job after that, to ice baths to keep himself awake long enough to study. He made it because of the effort and drive, despite his station in life.

Frankly, even the dirt poor in this country are the envy of the worlds poor. Most have free or subsidized housing, food, utilities, transportation, education, medical care, etc., etc., etc.
That is fine for those who are down and out and need a helping hand. But the so called safety net was not designed to permanently hold the weight of those who are inclined to perpetually relax in it.

The irony in this case is that many poor people would object to this person getting over on the system by only having to pay $100 per month in rent. That's because few in most of our country pay that little, regardless of cost of living in their city/state.
Instead it is the envious and leftist malcontents that lament of a rigged system (in their warped way of thinking), and relish when people are able to stick it to "the rich".
Some even like it when banks are robbed, glamorizing a Robin Hood type victory. After all as long as no one gets hurt in the robbery, big banks can absorb to loss because money grows on trees, right?

You see it all the time with leftist class warfare rhetoric, making it seem as if "Big Pharma", "Big Oil", etc., are evil corporations, owned by greedy 1%ers. They conveniently forget that those businesses not only employ millions of people (excuse me slaves & peasants), but they also provide income to investors via capitol gains. They also forget that those jobs allow people to have and provide a good living for their families.
More importantly, they provide energy for our society at an affordable cost to keep the lights on, the Netflix flowing, interstate commerce going, producing life saving drugs, etc., etc., etc. for all Americans, rich and poor.

I don't want to get too far off the subject, but rest assured it is easier to demonize a class of people or type of industry, rather than think of what those people/business provide to society. The person who scammed their way into $100 rent they were not entitled to, hurts everyone with unintended consequences.


`
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2018, 11:29 AM
 
19,899 posts, read 12,189,973 times
Reputation: 17622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellis Bell View Post
and a landlord can harass their tenets to get them to move?
What specifically have the elderly owners done?

It is quite telling of those who identify with this *********.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top