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IDEOLOGICAL THIEVES
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A popular mantra among the Left Wing is that NO ONE CAN OWN LAND.
That is completely wrong.
Without absolute ownership and the right to exclude others, there is nothing to stop predation and vandalism.
Without the "right to own" the farmer has no "right" to exclude the herdsman from trampling his crops with his herd. The herdsman has no "right" to prevent hunters from killing and taking his animals. All that remains are primitive hunter - gatherers in perpetual conflict over the planet "nobody can own."
Ownership and exclusion are vital to civilization.
No piece of land can simultaneously be used for shelter, grazing, farming, hunting, gathering, wildlife, and / or transportation.
The REAL GOAL of the Left Wing is to persuade the owners to surrender ownership to the collectivist STATE, so it can rule the (m)asses.
Do not fall for it. Defend absolute ownership of private property, for if you can’t absolutely own yourself, your labor, and the fruits of that labor, who does own you and yours?
(You have no right to life, if you have no land upon which to live! All you have is a privilege, subject to the landlord. And your progeny will have no nation to live within, when others take the land for their own posterity.)
Not true, people have the right to land as long as they are using it. If a farmer comes along and doesn't work then they have no say in the production process. That is how democratized worker managed work places operate.
From the linked article:
The presence of armed CNT militiamen also had the effect of imposing fear on those who opposed collectivization. Those smallholders who refused collectivization were prevented from hiring any laborers and usually were forced to sell their crops directly to the committees, on their terms. They were also often denied the services of the collectivized businesses such as the barbershops and bakeries, use of communal transport, farm equipment and food supplies from communal warehouses. All of these "economic pressures" combined caused many tenant farmers and smallholders to give up their land and join the collectives.
While some joined voluntarily, others, especially in the beginning of the revolution, were forced to join the collectives by anarchist militias. The anarcho-syndicalist periodical Solidaridad Obrera reported that: "Certain abuses have been committed that we consider counterproductive. We know that certain irresponsible elements have frightened the small peasants and that up to now a certain apathy has been noted in their daily labors."
TRANSLATION: Government theft of private property began at once, and was rampant. One result was that people worked a lot less hard than they used to.
Nice try.
Private land holders had no right to the land, period. The only right they had was that granted by the state.
The world is divided into two groups :
• People who have Creator endowed rights*, and
• People who want to take them for their own benefit.
(* Rights to life, natural liberty, personal liberty, inherent powers, absolute ownership, privileges and immunities not dependent upon consent, etc.)
Collectivists who deny the individual the endowed right to absolutely own land, houses, resources, tools, and the fruits of his labor are deluded when they claim that the worker 'keeps' his labor from being 'stolen' by capitalists.
Private land holders had no right to the land, period. The only right they had was that granted by the state.
INCORRECT.
“. . . It is a perversion of terms to say that a charter gives rights. It operates by a contrary effect — that of taking rights away. Rights are inherently in all the inhabitants; but charters, by annulling those rights, in the majority, leave the right, by exclusion, in the hands of a few. ... They...consequently are instruments of injustice.”
“ The fact therefore must be that the individuals themselves, each in his own personal and sovereign right, entered into a compact with each other to produce a government: and this is the only mode in which governments have a right to arise, and the only principle on which they have a right to exist.”
- - - Thomas Paine
" NATURAL LIBERTY is the right which nature gives to all mankind, of disposing of their persons and property after the manner they judge most consonant to their happiness, on condition of their acting within the limits of the law of nature, and that they do not in any way abuse it to the prejudice of other men."
- - - Bouvier's Law Dictionary
NATURAL LIBERTY - The power of acting as one thinks fit, without any restraint or control, unless by the law of nature. The right which nature gives to all mankind of disposing of their persons and property after the manner in which they judge most consistent with their happiness, on condition of their acting within the limits of the law of nature, and so as not to interfere in the equal exercise of the same rights by other men. 1 Blackstone's Commentaries, 123,
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth edition, p. 919.
" PERSONAL LIBERTY, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or Natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most SACRED and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987
Amendment V, US Constitution 1789
... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
❏ "PRIVATE PROPERTY - As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels." - - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217.
❏ "OWNERSHIP - ... Ownership of property is either absolute or qualified. The ownership of property is absolute when a single person has the absolute dominion over it... The ownership is qualified when it is shared with one or more persons, when the time of enjoyment is deferred or limited, or when the use is restricted. " - - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 1106
DECIPHER MODE ON
❏ Socialism and communism = COLLECTIVE ownership. No individual can absolutely own himself, his labor or his property. No individual rights are superior to the collective.
❏ The collective (“whole of a classless society”) = those who control the collective, rule the collective.
❏ Entitled to care, obligated to contribute = compulsory labor for the benefit of another; compulsory charity; distribution decided upon by the administrative bureaucracy; SLAVERY.
❏ Abolition of private property = anathema to American law; the violation of the endowment of rights and liberties; eradication of individual sovereignty and the republican form of government.
Under the republican form of government, the individual has SACRED RIGHTS that are not subject to a democratic majority, or elected government.
(Unless he consents to be governed, then he must shut up, sit down, pay and obey)
Last edited by jetgraphics; 05-02-2018 at 05:30 PM..
“. . . It is a perversion of terms to say that a charter gives rights. It operates by a contrary effect — that of taking rights away. Rights are inherently in all the inhabitants; but charters, by annulling those rights, in the majority, leave the right, by exclusion, in the hands of a few. ... They...consequently are instruments of injustice.”
“ The fact therefore must be that the individuals themselves, each in his own personal and sovereign right, entered into a compact with each other to produce a government: and this is the only mode in which governments have a right to arise, and the only principle on which they have a right to exist.”
- - - Thomas Paine
" NATURAL LIBERTY is the right which nature gives to all mankind, of disposing of their persons and property after the manner they judge most consonant to their happiness, on condition of their acting within the limits of the law of nature, and that they do not in any way abuse it to the prejudice of other men."
- - - Bouvier's Law Dictionary
NATURAL LIBERTY - The power of acting as one thinks fit, without any restraint or control, unless by the law of nature. The right which nature gives to all mankind of disposing of their persons and property after the manner in which they judge most consistent with their happiness, on condition of their acting within the limits of the law of nature, and so as not to interfere in the equal exercise of the same rights by other men. 1 Blackstone's Commentaries, 123,
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth edition, p. 919.
" PERSONAL LIBERTY, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or Natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most SACRED and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987
Amendment V, US Constitution 1789
... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
❏ "PRIVATE PROPERTY - As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels." - - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217.
❏ "OWNERSHIP - ... Ownership of property is either absolute or qualified. The ownership of property is absolute when a single person has the absolute dominion over it... The ownership is qualified when it is shared with one or more persons, when the time of enjoyment is deferred or limited, or when the use is restricted. " - - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 1106
DECIPHER MODE ON
❏ Socialism and communism = COLLECTIVE ownership. No individual can absolutely own himself, his labor or his property. No individual rights are superior to the collective.
❏ The collective (“whole of a classless society”) = those who control the collective, rule the collective.
❏ Entitled to care, obligated to contribute = compulsory labor for the benefit of another; compulsory charity; distribution decided upon by the administrative bureaucracy; SLAVERY.
❏ Abolition of private property = anathema to American law; the violation of the endowment of rights and liberties; eradication of individual sovereignty and the republican form of government.
Under the republican form of government, the individual has SACRED RIGHTS that are not subject to a democratic majority, or elected government.
(Unless he consents to be governed, then he must shut up, sit down, pay and obey)
I believe in universal laws, like those of egalitarianism and private usage, and a right to ones own labor.
Alas MoPs aren't utilities like toothbrushes, they are production center, and no one man has a right to monopolize a production center.
As Thomas Jefferson wrote, in the Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
Job #1 : Secure (endowed) rights, and
Job #2 : Govern those who consent.
CAVEAT : Consent waives rights.
BUT - - -
Until consent is given, endowed rights are in force and effect.
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His followers like Lenin turned to authoritarianism and away from workers freedom but that is not on Marx.
Though the anarchist in Spain and Latin America had a better idea in how to implement his ideas. Rather than giving the power to the state and then expecting it to voluntarily remove it self we should build an economy from the bottom with workers cooperatives until the point the state has no power left.
So I'll day that, his ideas about how to get there were wrongish but that wasn't his main focus anyways.
Come on, we can all love Marx. Peace and love to everyone here
When are y’all going to learn that you cannot have communism without totalitarianism? You think people are just going to give their businesses and land to the state?
And I have to take issue with your assertion that capitalism has killed more than communism. WTH!?! That’s not even close to true. And the capitalist system has brought more people out of poverty and starvation than any other system in human history. Communism has not.
"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.
We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a man’s own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence. "
SUMMED UP: Collectivists are thieves, liars, and slavers, seeking to dispossess others of their private property, and imposing involuntary servitude under the guise of compulsory charity - as if slavery is a viable remedy for the ills of mankind.
Though claiming to be champions of the oppressed and denouncing everyone else as oppressors, the left wing are the true oppressors. The left wing collectivists want us to submit to the all powerful State, of which they will magnanimously administer - for a hefty fee - for our own good.
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