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Old 05-18-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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Yea wage slavery is amazing as long as someone is paid they have dignity
a person voluntarily enters into an agreement to exchange labor for dollars. How is that slavery?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Yea wage slavery is amazing as long as someone is paid they have dignity
....and much more, like the house the car, the boat, saving for retirement, the overseas holidays.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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a person voluntarily enters into an agreement to exchange labor for dollars. How is that slavery?
Wage slavery or starvation thats not a choice thats a threat.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Wage slavery or starvation thats not a choice thats a threat.
Starvation? - what country do you live in?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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Wage slavery or starvation thats not a choice thats a threat.
Someone elses labor provides the food, you want to enslave them now?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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a person voluntarily enters into an agreement to exchange labor for dollars. How is that slavery?
Yeah, my slave wage dollars are sitting in a mutual fund right now generating more wage slave dollars and providing me with a comfortable retirement. Life is good. And Karl Marx has nothing to do with it. Shouldn't he be consigned to the dustbin of history already?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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Wage slavery or starvation thats not a choice thats a threat.
That's life. We're all really just animals. And like animals we work to eat.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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Chances are you might have bought it. Either way you have no intrinsic right to output that is not in use. The wood, metal, etc is shared resources from earth.

The only thing that is yours is your body and its abilities. Capitalism disregards these as input is controlled and redistributed by the capitalists controllers.
You know, I'm starting to warm to this whole Marxist thing. I mean, all I have to do is wait until somebody leaves their dwelling for any reason, and I can just go in and and take their stuff. I mean, it's not "in use" technically, right? I'd leave the wood and metal.
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Old 05-18-2018, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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That's a lot different to controlling your body and abilities though. If your think your great grandpa selling the farm, limits your ability to improve your lot today, then you're just brainwashed. Trying to blame JP Morgan for someone's addiction today is a bit of a stretch as well.

Capitalism isn't just about big corporates either.
Materials aren’t freedom, the ability and opportunity to produce what you want is. Either the government or the private industry controls the MoP, you work for them or you starve.
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Old 05-18-2018, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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....and much more, like the house the car, the boat, saving for retirement, the overseas holidays.
Material reward is not freedom, the ability to produce what you want when you want is.
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