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Old 05-19-2018, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Adults can make agreements with each other, they can’t bound the labor of another to their own through binding contracts.
But I want to bind my labour to another - are you Marxists going to stop me if you get your way?
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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Why is CD still arguing over this repeatedly genocidal framework again?
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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But I want to bind my labour to another - are you Marxists going to stop me if you get your way?
I've never been able to get an answer to this aside from the idea that they would be "play acting".

Weird and brutal.

0-2.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Fine, none of that changes anything.

In Marxism a anarchism people are free, in capitalism companies act as decentralized states that hold a monopoly over the means of production.
There are no monopolies under capitalism unless no one outside of a lone individual chooses to produce a singular product/service

OR

We are down to the last physical resource that the earth has produced (the last banana, the last piece of coal, etc).

As stated numerous times before your problem is with nature/existence. You'll have to take that up with God, a sacred rock, Superman, or whatever/whoever you worship. That is your cross alone to bear.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I've never been able to get an answer to this aside from the idea that they would be "play acting".

Weird and brutal.

0-2.
Marxists would see the problem not as an inability to explain, but as an inability to understand.

We might both be due some good old fashioned Marxist "re-education", when the revolution happens.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Marxists would see the problem not as an inability to explain, but as an inability to understand.

We might both be due some good old fashioned Marxist "re-education", when the revolution happens.
Wrong, you can work for someone but you must agree to it day by day, you can’t be bind to the point you want to back out but can’t.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Wrong, you can work for someone but you must agree to it day by day, you can’t be bind to the point you want to back out but can’t.
But I'm happy to honour contracts I've made, and don't want to negotiate a new arrangement every day - are the Marxists going to send the goons around to " re-educate" me?
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Wrong, you can work for someone but you must agree to it day by day, you can’t be bind to the point you want to back out but can’t.
Why not a minute by minute agreement?

Every 879 seconds?

Every 47 minutes?

Every 1.5 days?

Where did this number come from, King Winterfall?
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Fine, none of that changes anything.

In Marxism a anarchism people are free, in capitalism companies act as decentralized states that hold a monopoly over the means of production.
wrong

in capitalism...I can and will be free to choose my own path, answer ONLY to myself IF I CHOOSE

in Marxism, you answer to the commune, or you're sent to the gulag... you have no freedom, only slavery
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Adults can make agreements with each other, they can’t bound the labor of another to their own through binding contracts.

what do YOU THINK Marxism is....

you and your labor are BOUND to the commune.. you receive NO PAY for your labor, only "the needs"
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