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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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They are traumatized by what their parents did to them and confused. When they get their bellies full and have a good sleep they will be fine. They will probably want to stay where they are safe and fed compared to their parents dragging them through the desert among MS13 bodies and sex trafficking thugs.
Did you even have parents?

 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And thy self (US citizens) are separated from their children when they are arrested and detained for disobeying the law.


Anyway NO biblical references should be used in determining or upholding US law/Policy
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I never said they should be used, I think you can pretty much cherry-pick the Bible and find references supporting any stance you choose to take.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Jesus would certainly support this civil policy. When Ceasar issued the census decree, Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem.

“Give to Caesar what is Ceasar’s, give to God what is God’s”.
And yet, in Acts 5, when the Apostles were going to be arrested again for preaching the Gospel (a crime), they stated that they must obey God over mans' law.


And let us not forget that this country came to exist because the colonists revolted against England's unjust laws.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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Drug dealers go to jail when caught, how many who hire illegals face anything but fines?

That there are shady employers who will hire illegals is irrelevant. The people who cross the border illegally, smuggle children across the border are guilty of a crime.


I agree, If hiring an illegal is against the law, allow employers to deny employment to those who cant prove citizenship without doubt and jail them if they hire illegals anyway but that is a totally different problem.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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First of all, that is an 8 year old opinion paper. We all know (we do, don't we?) that migration back to Mexico exceeds that coming from Mexico during that time period. That alone makes the paper inaccurate.

But worse, it is filled with the conditional "we estimate" again and again when discussing any figures. Even though, it focuses strictly on a fiscal basis, not an overall economic one. As example, it doesn't even discuss the issue of impact on GDP. Lastly, it's endnotes are not true citations in the sense anyone who has been involved with reports would recognize. Some of them are, many of them are not.

So, vastly out of date, their own estimates in many cases, and giving only a partial picture.
Not to mention FAIRUS is one of three sites run by John Tanton a racist, tribalist nutjob. He plays fast and lose with the facts and his junk is debunked regularly
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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What difference does it make? Liberals have been saying for years the US isn't a Christian country. Whether it's "Christian" or not doesn't matter, right? According to the left religion, especially Christianity, has no business being involved in politics or laws.

Criminals are separated from their children every day all around the world and have been as long as there have been laws to be broken.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Amazing, isn't it, how so many have suddenly developed this great concern for the poor, suffering children of this country?

The same people who vote for people who want to cut SNAP benefits and after-school programs and children's health insurance programs are now conveniently social justice warriors for the children.

Sure they are.
You are so right.

Luckily, we see straight through their horse manure.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Aren't parents who drag their kids to a foreign border and attempt to cross illegally abusive by definition? Isn't separating children from abusive parents a good thing?
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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That there are shady employers who will hire illegals is irrelevant. The people who cross the border illegally, smuggle children across the border are guilty of a crime.

NONSENSE! It's ludicrous how you say those who cross the border are guilty of a crime while calling those who hire them, equally guilty of a crime, "irrelevant".


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I agree, If hiring an illegal is against the law, allow employers to deny employment to those who cant prove citizenship without doubt and jail them if they hire illegals anyway but that is a totally different problem.

Two sides of the same problem.
 
Old 06-19-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What difference does it make? Liberals have been saying for years the US isn't a Christian country. Whether it's "Christian" or not doesn't matter, right? According to the left religion, especially Christianity, has no business being involved in politics or laws.

Criminals are separated from their children every day all around the world and have been as long as there have been laws to be broken.

So, anything that happens every day all around the world should continue to be allowed to happen?
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