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How about the farmers and ranchers in California. People who employ thousands of people and are deeply affected by the politics of Sacramento who are essentially unrepresented in state government?
I have a good friend who owns a large walnut/pecan farm in California. Very wealthy guy and his is so abused by the taxes and government. His vote means nothing there. He is completely taxed without representation and he is paying the bills. He pays more in property and income tax per month than most people's income per year.
He most certainly has representation. Every inch of CA is represented in state government, if he is not happy with them, he can organize to vote them out. If he wants, he can even run for office himself, this is how democracy works.
And I don't know what the F you are talking about with property tax - CA is one of the most property tax friendly state in the union. It is capped at 1% at time of purchase and can only be raised 1% per year; regardless of market price. If the market goes down, property owners can challenge the assessment to lower the property tax. When the market goes up, government cannot raise the tax beyond the 1% allowance. There are many CA residents living in million dollar homes paying peanuts in property taxes. If your friend thinks 1% is too freakin high, I don't know what to tell you guys.
Dude. Do you know the difference between closing and bankruptcy????
The 9 Burger Kings closed. It does not say they filed for bankruptcy.
Often businesses closed because the landlords jacked up the rent. It's a sign that business around the particular area is booming and so rent is raising; and some businesses cannot afford the rent and had to close. There is not much margin for a $1.49 burger, folks. A Burger King near my work closed down a few years ago and in its place a Subway opened. Merely saying a business closed means nothing.
If you get down to specifics. It was under a Republican president when our car industry got overtaken by Japan.
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Japan???
under Obozo, Chrysler was sold through bankruptcy to Italy
Funny thing is Ford did have the problems that GM and Chrysler did
In 1970, General Motors had about a 60 percent share of the U.S. automobile market... Today, that figure is down to about 15 percent
and it had everything to do with unions and management of that FAILED company
why in the world did we attempt to save FAILED companies
Sweeping generalizations aside, it really boils down to two groups :
1) prodigious producers of surplus usable goods and services, and
2) consumers, who do nothing productive.
Group 1 is often denied equitable value for their labor and production by Group 2, who enjoy a higher standard of living at their expense.
Most people seek to be in Group 2, but without Group 1, civilization collapses.
under Obozo, Chrysler was sold through bankruptcy to Italy
Funny thing is Ford did have the problems that GM and Chrysler did
In 1970, General Motors had about a 60 percent share of the U.S. automobile market.* Today, that figure is down to about 15 percent
and it had everything to do with unions and management of that FAILED company
why in the world did we attempt to save FAILED companies
It has to do with a dumbing down of America. Japan beat us with better engineering, plain and simple. Good engineering starts at schools. The Republicans, from Reagan on down, continually tried to cut education.
It's no miracle innovation tends to happen when Democrats are in charge.
I have been to Minneapolis about a dozen times for military business... great town, great people... and the appearance was not very liberal, more conservative, and very white also
my only issue with Minnesota is the cold..just too darn cold
been to Milwaukee also about a dozen times, like any major city it has its good parts and its bad parts, there is a great Irish B&B pub in downtown
Milwaukee also a lot of society attractions like plays, sports, museums, etc
so to sit on your high horse, and lie about another state, pounding you chest say how great Minnesota is compared to its neighbor of Wisconsin...is very elitist...
which is to be expected from the typically elitist liberals who think they are better than everyone else, and CONSTANTLY put down any red state they can mention, even their next door neighbor
This seems to be more a Minnesota thing than a liberal thing. Wisconsin doesn't have a rep as a particularly "red" state anyway, not over the long haul. Here is an interesting article from the Wisconsin side of the divide: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...wth/590813002/
Even if the economic stuff is true, I agree with this comment from the article-"Economists generally warn there are limits to how much a state’s own policies help or hurt its economy, because of the dominant role of national and global factors. Some analysts have argued Minnesota’s economic advantages are deep-seated and date back decades, though job and wage growth were comparable in the two states during the period before the Great Recession, from 2000 to 2007."
But that doesn't mean that, as one Minnesotan is trying to claim, that Minnesotans are somehow better people, that their health care resources are better and unequaled, etc.
Because we were losing millions of jobs due to the Great Recession. You are forgetting that these car companies paid back these loans, the Italian company that bought took over the debt....
Try again.
BS..happened well before the liberal caused recession
U.S. car companies were spending hundreds of millions of dollars building shiny new automobile factories in China in 2000
in 2000, when Clinton was in office....the problems happened way before the recession
This is a moronic thread, even ignoring the ultra moronic "derp..da libs are better at economy" view. That's independently moronic, even ignoring the fact that characterizing Wisconsin as conservative or Minnesota as liberal is at best wishful thinking. These are two of the most purple states in the nation, especially culturally.
But ignoring all of that, let's just take the much simpler statement: "Minnesota is better at managing a recovery than Wisconsin".
The fact is that the OP is uneducated on the difference in the economic foundations of Minnesota and Wisconsin. And his post is so utterly paint huffing stupid, that I'm not even of the mind to give a lesson.
If you want to discover why Minnesota recovered and will always recover better than Wisconsin, then define the economies of Minnesota and Wisconsin. Perhaps check into some history, and the economic basis for their largest towns and how that basis differs. There is no comparison, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with politics. In fact, I'll be 100% impressed if the OP can come back and cite the central difference even after I directed him straight to it.
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