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Old 05-17-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
We don't have royalties in America. CEOs are just employees - they don't exist without the corporations.
And they shouldn't be paid a royal's fortune.

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Maybe there's no justification for the CEO pay, but it's none of our business.
I like it as a topic. You seem to, also.

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A plumber you hired to fix your toilet has no say the obscene amount of money you choose to give to your children.
Analogies just aren't your thing.

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Old 05-17-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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I assume you are arguing in good faith, so I'll answer in good faith.

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1. That what's fair for workers is better decided by workers.
If the workers don't think the compensation is fair, they would walk and find someone who offers them more money. Same goes with the CEO. Plenty of CEOs quit or find greener pasture.

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2. What's right about such an enormous one? Naturally, I know there's going to be one. But, why so huge?
Enormous based on what standard?

CEO market is a highly competitive and a ton of people (I don't know why - it's ridiculously stressful) line up to take that job, and a ton of companies line up to take every highly performing CEO.

If a CEO can operate your company and generate $10 billion a year of profit. How much would you pay him? $1 million? $10 million? OK, let's say $1 million, and he accepts.

The problem is the next company would offer $2, $5, $10 million to hire him away from you. A good CEO gets called and courted CONSTANTLY!

Now what do you do? Most people would pay him $10 million.

Again, the CEO market is highly competitive just like a day labor market.

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3. We don't have much of a middle class in the US anymore. Do you think the working poor are middle class?
Everybody in US is ridiculously rich according to every world standard. Not sure what poor people you are talking about.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
And they shouldn't be paid a royal's fortune.



I like it as a topic. You seem to, also.



Analogies just aren't your thing.

Why shouldn't they be paid?

Why should you, a non-owner, non-stockholder, have any say on how a employee of the company should be paid?
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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I think it is unfair that congressman Ellison makes many times more than a McDonald's employee and doesn't have to work as hard.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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Damn...it’s just astonishing.

CEO’s in this country grab on average about 339 times the median pay (that’s an important distinction) of their workers. SMH



No wonder CEO’s fought so hard against the pay disclosure portion of Dodd-Frank.

Keith Ellison releases study showing CEOs average 339 times median worker's salary | TheHill
Average CEO made 13.1mil
Average worker made 37,000

Average NBA player makes 6.4mil (including the scrubs and guys on rookie deals)
If you just consider NBA starters and include their endorsement income, you'd be well over the 13.1million figure and there are about as many NBA starters as there are CEO's in the study.

Why is it ok to pay someone that contributes to a companies success via their actions but not to compensate someone running a company and making critical decisions about it's direction?

Why does the usher, guy selling peanuts, woman taking tickets at the games make $10/hour or whatever when a star player is making 1/2million each game in pay and endorsements?

Answer: Because this is political grandstanding and CEO's are the easy target without really having to address the root cause of wage stagnation in the middle class.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:46 PM
 
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I think it is unfair that congressman Ellison makes many times more than a McDonald's employee and doesn't have to work as hard.
Ellison makes a ton more than his UNPAID Interns.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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That’s quite the projection.
It is against CD policy to edit quoted posts. Deleting a portion of the original post is still editing. In your case you are trying to make the poster you are quoting to be a racist.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Did I say otherwise?
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No you didn’t.
Thank you!

Reading Comprehension: 100%
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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If I'm a stock owner of the company its definitely my business.
Dude, those 4 or 5 shares you have in Billy Bob’s Greasy Burgers stock doesn’t entitle you to a voice. Let’s not bog this thread down in delusions of CD grandiosity.

We’re talking about people that punch way above your station in life. Let’s keep it that way.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:28 PM
 
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It is against CD policy to edit quoted posts. Deleting a portion of the original post is still editing. In your case you are trying to make the poster you are quoting to be a racist.
True, but as long as you don’t alter any words, it’s generally permissible.
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