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Hilary lost because of a system that means every vote isn't equal.
Hillary lost because she and her supporters thought she had it in the bag and got lazy down the stretch in some key swing-states.
As for your complaint, that's like saying Cleveland lost because not every basket is considered equal...even though those are the accepted rules by all participants and strategies are built accordingly.
That's right. Trump's win didn't reflect the will of the people, but rather rather a better strategy in "a game"
The point stands -policies didn't matter.
His win reflected a system where its not just a popularity contest, yes.
Policies shouldn't matter for the most part anyway, most are lies, and many of them are just literally people voting for getting free stuff and handouts. The old saying about 2 wolves and a lamb voting on whats for dinner definitely applies here. A "popular vote" is not a good idea.
Hillary lost because she and her supporters thought she had it in the bag and got lazy down the stretch in some key swing-states.
As for your complaint, that's like saying Cleveland lost because not every basket is considered equal...even though those are the accepted rules by all participants and strategies are built accordingly.
Probably correct , but she didn't lose because of policies.
When votes aren't equal, conclusions on wins/losses are difficult to reach
But she still got more votes -what does that say about her opposition?
It says that they ran a smarter campaign than she did and didn't waste time and money chasing meaningless popular votes in states like CA where they had no chance of winning the electoral vote.
I'm not even a Trump voter nor will I ever be. fyi.
It says that they ran a smarter campaign than she did and didn't waste time and money chasing meaningless popular votes in states like CA where they had no chance of winning the electoral vote.
I'm not even a Trump voter nor will I ever be. fyi.
Sure, but it can't be said that she lost due to her policies.
Probably correct , but she didn't lose because of policies.
When votes aren't equal, conclusions on wins/losses are difficult to reach
IMO Hillary mainly lost because:
1) She could have won but got lazy down the stretch thinking it was in the bag. I suspect some of her supporters in swing states didn't even go to the polls thinking it didn't matter.
2) She's generally unlikeable and uncharismatic.
3) Black voters were unmotivated by her in large part because of the bitter 2008 primary where negative opinions were formed.
4) Both parties have abandoned blue collar USA, with Hillary and her supporters going so far as to call them deplorables and mocking their lack of education etc. In desperation, they voted "outsider".
Sure, but it can't be said that she lost due to her policies.
Why not? Her policies weren't good enough to swing voter opinions in states she lost? No?
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