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Old 06-11-2018, 12:23 AM
 
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I question how many americans actually can think for themselves.
I am pretty sure it is not a majority.
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:10 AM
 
Location: California
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Here's why I don't care: The MANDATE was unconstitutional overreach. It was the house of sand that the ACA was built upon and there was no way in the world it would have lasted another decade. I'm not sure what the answer is but there has to be a more reasonable solution.
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:21 AM
 
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This is BS.

Some of the hardest working people I know are union ironworkers, electricians, ...

Detroit went downhill because people wanted a different kind of vehicle than American manufacturers decided to make. The Japanese were making fuel efficient cars that didn't need to be Fixed Or Repaired Daily. That's what people wanted and that's what they bought. Japanese auto workers are unionized and their cars were selling just fine.

A good portion of teachers are not union. In fact, the lowest performing students are in non-union states. So hard to put this on the unions.

I've worked union and I've worked non-union. I'd pick union any day. Co-workers are better trained. Safety conditions are better. Pay is better.


I take it you've had at least one unreliable FORD as well.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:49 AM
 
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Just so everyone remembers.....Democrats want single payer health care. It the end game for them. Republicans don't want anything at all.

So, in response to that, the Democrats have to compromise and use the REPUBLICAN plan that originated in the early 1990's and the plan used by a REPUBLICAN governed in Massachusetts.

Then conservatives freak out.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:42 AM
 
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ACA was a tragic mistake, but the Free Market will resurrect the private insurance system, given enough time.
From "E pluribus unum" as de facto motto at the onset ...

Until 1956 when US Congress passed an act (H. J. Resolution 396), adopting "In God We Trust" as the official motto ...

& now: should we consider adopting 'In The Free Market We Trust' as our official motto?

Ludicrous.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:49 AM
 
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Just so everyone remembers.....Democrats want single payer health care. It the end game for them. Republicans don't want anything at all.

So, in response to that, the Democrats have to compromise and use the REPUBLICAN plan that originated in the early 1990's and the plan used by a REPUBLICAN governed in Massachusetts.

Then conservatives freak out.


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Old 06-11-2018, 04:00 PM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Republicans just handed Democrats an issue that will win the 2018 elections for them.


Can you say sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep? I think you can.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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should we consider adopting 'in the free market we trust' as our official motto? .
yes
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Old 06-11-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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The Trump administration is going to court to try to remove the requirement for insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions. But they want to delay the action until after the midterms.

Trump went from "everyone is going to have health coverage and the government is going to pay for it" to trying to take health coverage away from as many as possible. I cannot imagine how he can look people in the eye while he tries to take health coverage away from someone who has been horribly sick.

Trump’s Justice Department is calling on the courts to throw out protections for people with pre-existing conditions.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...e-texas-606930

Combine this with the Medicare budget shortfall and good luck America.
Trump, Twitter and Trumps speeches!

If it doesnt comecout of his OWN mouth then it must be FAKE NEWS!
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Old 06-11-2018, 08:39 PM
 
Location: NY
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O.K.
Dumb question.
If courts are looking to throw out protections for people with pre-existing conditions
I can only guess their medical premiums will rise as they have no choice but to seek
extra out of pocket coverage with someone who will insure them.
The middle class gets banged up once more against the wall.
But what about the destitute and those on medicaid ?
Where will the money come to support their coverage?
Will they get kicked out of nursing homes or denied entry into a hospital?
I just don't get it....
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