Trump Wants to Remove Pre-Existing Conditions Coverage (enemy, lobbyist, Australia)
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They're just part of the problem. Many liberals believe killing a fetus because it's inconvenient is A-OK but killing a very costly-to-treat ill person who is going to die anyway, isn't. What kind of sense does that make? /SMH
The last time I checked, many of those who lean Left support legalized Euthanasia, in addition to socialized healthcare for illnesses.
From what I've witnessed, it is those on the far right that oppose euthanasia due to religious beliefs.
Everyone should be covered. Period. There should be no shopping for insurance.
I agree that we need to go towards more universal coverage, but not single payer. We should still want choice. Choice with patients and their plans, as well as docs and other HC providers with their choice on what plans they want to participate with and what patients they want to take on.
You will see great push back from docs on single payer. Because that means an easily compressed central vise squeezing out their incomes and reducing their practice independence moving forward. If we don't keep the docs happy enough they will buck.
The best and brightest will go more often elsewhere in careers, and the delivery of HC will become more assembly line. Less convenient, less caring.
I agree that we need to go towards more universal coverage, but not single payer. We should still want choice. Choice with patients and their plans, as well as docs and other HC providers with their choice on what plans they want to participate with and what patients they want to take on.
You will see great push back from docs on single payer. Because that means an easily compressed central vise squeezing out their incomes and reducing their practice independence moving forward. If we don't keep the docs happy enough they will buck.
The best and brightest will go more often elsewhere in careers, and the delivery of HC will become more assembly line. Less convenient, less caring.
Doctors are not all going to decide to be accountants. Germany has doctors. England has doctors. Canada has doctors. If our system is so much better, why do they all not simply come here?
Thanks to the guy now in the WH, premiums increased exponentially from last year to this.
Not everywhere. For what ever reason, my wife's premium stayed almost the same around $950/mo.
Starting later in July we have to move 200 miles to MD Anderson for 6 months for her allo stem cell transplant. Easily another $M. Plus I have to place my medical practice on hold. I can't imagine the stress on families without the means.
Doctors are not all going to decide to be accountants. Germany has doctors. England has doctors. Canada has doctors. If our system is so much better, why do they all not simply come here?
Where did I say our system is better?
Many good and top students are already not opting for medicine. The difference with docs is the time and effort and cost to become one. A very long and expensive undertaking. Many years post-college with no salary. These days, few new docs are going into private practice. Instead they are employed by local hospitals. Just like single payer they are submitting to the powers that be, with income and independence. I see and hear doc dissatisfaction at our well run hospital every day. The day of the single doc looking after the bulk of his patients medical conditions in and out of the hospital 24/7 is gone. Now most every patient has an expensive series of docs/consultants. Along with a hospitalist if inpatient. And none of these docs knows all about their patient like the primary.
Of course docs will not starve by any means, but it is all going in the wrong direction for docs. And actually not too dissimilar from the slope of more broad middle class wages. More and more NP's and PA's will be coming in at lower wages. But we don't know if lower overall cost, and we don't know about relative outcomes and quality.
I would suspect that at some point that med students education and training will be funded. Either centrally, by hospital or communities.
Many good and top students are already not opting for medicine.
As has always been the case or we would not have Engineer's and Scientists.
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The difference with docs is the time and effort and cost to become one. A very long and expensive undertaking. Many years post-college with no salary. These days, few new docs are going into private practice. Instead they are employed by local hospitals. Just like single payer they are submitting to the powers that be, with income and independence. I see and hear doc dissatisfaction at our well run hospital every day. The day of the single doc looking after the bulk of his patients medical conditions in and out of the hospital 24/7 is gone. Now most every patient has an expensive series of docs/consultants. Along with a hospitalist if inpatient. And none of these docs knows all about their patient like the primary.
I'm all for addressing the high costs of becoming a doctor also. It all needs addressed.
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Of course docs will not starve by any means, but it is all going in the wrong direction for docs. And actually not too dissimilar from the slope of more broad middle class wages. More and more NP's and PA's will be coming in at lower wages. But we don't know if lower overall cost, and we don't know about relative outcomes and quality.
I would suspect that at some point that med students education and training will be funded. Either centrally, by hospital or communities.
The last time I checked, many of those who lean Left support legalized Euthanasia, in addition to socialized healthcare for illnesses.
From what I've witnessed, it is those on the far right that oppose euthanasia due to religious beliefs.
Most libertarians (that I know) are pretty a-religious. Libertarians are far right and fine with euthanasia.
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Originally Posted by pknopp
Doctors are not all going to decide to be accountants. Germany has doctors. England has doctors. Canada has doctors. If our system is so much better, why do they all not simply come here?
Germany does not have single payer, but they do have UHC.
Germany does not have single payer, but they do have UHC.
I am not a stickler for how we do it
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I wonder how those poor old life insurance companies manage to 'stay alive' or even make a buck. 
