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Old 06-09-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Be careful what you wish for. Wall Street will get their hands on your money sooner or later when your support their agenda.
Not really.

I'm more into tangible investments. Especially ones which will yield me residual income. Which is why I hope another housing market crash happens.
I've got cash in a safe to go on a buying spree when dummies default on mortgages they can't pay off and pick the houses up when they're in foreclosure cheap. Even know a few bank asset managers by name.

I'll scoop up every single house I can.
Just like I used to do with cars on the weekends when I was younger. Go across the border to MA or CT where they failed for body rot, maybe throw tires and brakes on them, have a total of 700-800 in them sold for 1500-1800. If it had a bad subframe, junk yard a subframe. Unibody or frame rotted? Yank the engine and swap it in another with a good body and frame/Unibody make money on the sale plus for scrap metal junking the other one.

Only this time with houses at a higher profit margin.

Go on dummies and run out and buy yourselves houses you can't afford!

 
Old 06-09-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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All collectivism sounds good for one reason - you are promised that nobody matter how much input labor you provide, even if zero, your needs and wants will be taken care of by someone else. To the folks on the lazy half of the "effort" Bell curve, that's a very appealing sales pitch.
Plus, muh roads.

 
Old 06-09-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Garbage platitude if someone happens to make less than you despite working full I don't think they should starve when they retire sorry.
I don't think anyone has to retire either.
If they can afford to retire go for it. Do it up buttercup.

Can't afford to retire? Don't. Stupid should hurt.
 
Old 06-09-2018, 03:58 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Plus, muh roads.

Who needs roads when you have 4x4 and a lift?
Where we're going we don't need roads.
 
Old 06-09-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default How did Communism become so popular given just how much it goes against human nature?

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Can someone explain? Yeah, Communism's "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" philosophy sounds nice, but anyone with a functioning brain and isn't mentally challenged should realize just how incredibly impractical and a slap in the face towards human nature the very concept is. There are ALWAYS people that are better than others, people that are far smarter, people that are just overall far superior to others, as such of course it's just natural for people to be above others. I mean, has there EVER been a nation/state that was Communist yet didn't end up being ruled by evil greedy **** heads?

The Soviet Union sure as hell in no way ever practiced what they preached. The vast majority of people were little better than poor peasants while those in the politburo and at the top greatly enjoyed wealth, fame, prestige; the likes of which the vast majority could never hope to achieve. Did those at the top honestly not see how massively evil hypocritical they were? Sure you can complain about Capitalism, but at least with Capitalism there's no question or hiding in letting you know you either work or become a stupid bum. It truly amazes me how so many honestly thought Communism could in anyway work, much less lead to this great egalitarian utopia. Karl Marx should've been drowned at birth.

A cursory familiarity with recent history would reveal to you that in many, if not most, cases over the post WW2 period, the alternative to colonial or royal rule was communism around much of the 3rd world.

I doubt that it was all that popular, as you claim. It was simply seen as preferable to what they had in place and the locals saw it as their best way forward.

In the years since, communism's influence has deteriorated greatly.
 
Old 06-09-2018, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Who needs roads when you have 4x4 and a lift?
Where we're going we don't need roads.
Ha!

I'm sure the Hill Valley City Council enacted a tax on the skyway though.

 
Old 06-09-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I don't think anyone has to retire either.
If they can afford to retire go for it. Do it up buttercup.

Can't afford to retire? Don't. Stupid should hurt.
What a lovely ideology you have. Thankfully most Americans aren't as morally bankrupt as you are.
 
Old 06-09-2018, 04:31 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Barking up the wrong tree

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Even Hitler was pretty much a Marxist it was class warfare the Jews had amassed a bunch of wealth and he wanted to redistribute that wealth. It’s the same rhetoric you hear today from the left about “white supremacy “ Hitler called it “Jewish Supremacy”. And this stuff is being taught in schools! What’s going to happen in the US when we have a white monority who still owns the majority of the land and businesses? Mob rule is going to come for them and their property you can bet everything you have on that happening at some point.
No, Hitler appears to have been a racist, with an extremely poor understanding of economics to boot. The Jewish population in Europe that managed to come out on top economically may have gamed the system to do so. But that meant they valued education, they studied hard, they applied themselves, & (I think) they simply outperformed almost everybody else. As a group they were literate, often in Hebrew, Yiddish, the local language(s).

They aimed @ the professions, those that were open to them. Hitler seemed to think that merely confiscating & distributing the material goods of the Jews & other political enemies would permanently fix the problems of inequality of wealth production - but it didn't. & it won't going forward, either. Because the problem doesn't lie there, it lies in the willingness to work towards career or professional goals, & not so much in the mere trappings of wealth.
 
Old 06-10-2018, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Did I make it in before the "true communism hasn't been done before" post?
Yes. Not sure I did, though.
 
Old 06-10-2018, 10:59 PM
 
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Whats interesting is that Social Security and the minimum wage would never have been implemented without the threat of communism in the 1930s. As the ruling Wall Street class were terrified what infuriated and organized workers could do. Giving workers some tiny bit of dignity and a public safety net was seen as a way to "buy off" the workers. So conservatives today who like Social Security and depend on it should thank the communists.
Turns out that the thought of guillotines being rolled out has a softening effect. No less of an aristocrat than Bismarck, the Iron Chancellor himself, instituted massive social reforms - national healthcare, accident insurance and old age pensions - to counteract the spectre of socialism.

Make fun of Marx' ideas of a perfect society, they deserve it. But his analysis of the excesses of unbridled capitalism and the suffering it wrought for those not running things - that was pretty much dead-on. And it resonated, because the working classes lived it. If you were a worker - factory, mine, farm - in the late 19th century, life sucked.

It's no surprise that Russia's useless aristocrats were overthrown, what's surprising is that it took so long. Of course, the inept leadership of the Russian Army in WWI might have been the spark that set off the powder keg.
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