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Old 06-28-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You people continue to read things into election where the worst candidate beat the second worst candidate in history. I think you are way over thinking what actually occurred.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Three things led to Trump's election


1) Trump is a skilled and accomplished con-man

2) The antiquated and unnecessary Electoral College

3) Campaign management that knew how to play the Electoral College
By that I assume you mean they knew how to win an election. Winning the popular vote while losing the electoral is like winning the Special Olympics. No one cares, and in the end you're still "special". Though perhaps not as "special" as those that bring it up 2 years after the election as if it matters.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Give a woman the power of President? Isn't that statement by definition sexism?
Not at all.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Much of that is due to the media acting as an amplifier to all things political.
Sorry but this is on the parties. Did McConnell need to tweet a picture of Gorsuch after the Supreme Court ruling? After stealing an Obama appointment? Even Erick Erickson admits that if a SCJ leaves six months before the next presidential election, McConnell will rush the appointment through and that not giving Merick Garland a hearing was simply stealing an Obama appointment.

"The GOP knows ____ well if this were a Presidential year, McConnell would be rushing through a nominee before the election regardless of his prior statement. You know he would. Stop pretending the Garland obstruction was anything other than preventing Obama from getting an appointment."

https://www.themaven.net/theresurgen...EeFWFB2RBVwHA/

That is a Republican saying "stop pretending". The media didn't do that, that is purely Republicans doing that.

And McConnell posting the picture of Gorsuch was simply the GOP spiking the ball to inflame the anger.

This wasn't about Obama policies. McConnell declared they would make him a one term president and did everything he could including refusing having a hearing on what even the GOP admitted was a moderate nominee. What McConnell did is forever change the rules. A president can only name a SCJ if the president also controls the Senate.

What this also means is in the future, Democrats will be intensely motivated to seek revenge for what McConnell and the GOP have done and are doing.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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This is true. Rarely does one hear confessions from Trump voters, that they merely chose the lesser of two evils, or were seduced by an enticing message that's since then been belied by reality. Most of them remain committed, even if they admit that one or another aspect of Trump's behavior disappoints them. In other words, the Trump coalition is less one of accident or grudging acquiescence, than one of what appears to be sincere belief. This gives Trump a considerable advantage in 2020.

I had lunch with someone yesterday who made that very confession- he simply could not vote for Hilary but he's disappointed with the level of discourse. Even during/after the election I heard the same thing from friends/acquaintances.


When you take Hilary out of the question I think he loses at least 5% of his support. The question is if he can replace that with conservative voters surprised/happy with how conservative he has been on social issues. And can the Dems counter with a candidate that at least consolidates their base.
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Old 06-28-2018, 12:00 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Democrats are crying and whining about what President Trump is doing while after eight years of Obama ignoring the people, Conservatives/Republicans and making race, transgender and freebies, on top of his list without ever thinking about the consequences IF Hillary wouldn’t be the next President.

Clearly, that was never a thought!

Obamacare was pushed through our throats and premiums almost impossible to afford and making health the unfordable care!

President Trump was there at the right time and Obama delivered him the well deserved presidency.

Every day we see bashing of President Trump and his family and now calls to bash any of his voters and calling Trump supporters “Nazi’s”.

It is mind boggling to witness the left, not understanding that over the last eight years, our side was vocal but overall decent, except for a few people. Not believing Obama’s birth certificate wasn’t calling to do harm in him and it was an easy way to end that gossip or rumor. Just show it.

I’m not a birther, but my birth certificate was demanded for immigration and it couldn’t even be older then a certain amount of years or not valid so we had to pay again to get an International birth certificate. Like I was born again but we did what was required while Obama was the President!

Obama didn’t come out to say that was no longer needed. No calls to bother member of his cabinet, etc.

Liberals are at wits end and still are not discussing that perhaps under Obama the people felt betrayed and that caused President Trump to be elected.

Will the left ever realize that Obama helped electing Trump?

Obamacare is the only issue of substance you bring up here. Everything else is conspiracy stuff or right-wing Fox News propaganda.

I do agree though that Trump is a reaction to Obama. I don't think America was ready for a black President and Trump is proof of that. Trump is also proof that Obama pushed too much too quickly on LGBT rights. Gay marriage stirred up a hornet's nest and he should have let the anger over that subside before pushing stuff such as the transgender bathroom directive.
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Old 06-28-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: My House
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Of course you feel this way. You are a Republican. Just like Democrats believe it was because of Bush.


Repubs vote for Republicans. Dems vote for Democrats. A small minority vote in the middle. When a Dem is in office or fresh out of office, everything bad in the world is their fault according to Republicans and everything great is due to fresh Democrat policies. When a Repub is in office or fresh out of office, everything bad in the world is their fault according to Democrats and everything great is due to fresh Republican policies. Meanwhile, the sky is blue and water is wet.
Yes... which is easy to see when you're someone who has never belonged to either party.

I agree. It's annoying.
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Old 06-28-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: My House
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Obama was disliked from the git go for one reason and one reason only.........he is a racist!
Against which one of his halves?

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Old 06-28-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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Three things led to Trump's election


1) Trump is a skilled and accomplished con-man

2) The antiquated and unnecessary Electoral College

3) Campaign management that knew how to play the Electoral College
Funny no one has complained about the electorial college until their candidate didn't win. Nary a peep from the Clintons as to how awful and unfair it was when Bill won.
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Old 06-28-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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Stopping the illegal immigration does two things that help many of the other issues in this country.

First it eliminates some of the low wage competition for jobs, thereby lowering the unemployment numbers and raising the potential for our own citizens to earn more. This results in more revenue coming into the government for the other projects and solutions.

Secondly, it lowers the cost of government having to take care of healthcare, feeding, schooling, chasing them down and prosecuting them in some cases, and myriad other expenses because they are here and shouldn’t be in the first place. It is cheaper to keep them from coming here in the first place.

You have to start somewhere and usually the simplest and most obvious steps should be taken first. The fact that previous elected politicians failed to see that and act on it is why we have a President Trump today.
That bolded part isn't going to work that way at all.

If US citizens wanted to be picking sweet potatoes for low wages, they'd be in the fields.

If they wanted to be working construction for low wages, they'd be framing houses.

What people in our country want is higher wages and for the prices of all the stuff they buy to stay the same.

News flash: not gonna happen.
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