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View Poll Results: Do You Believe That Women Gaining The Right To Vote Brought Us Today's Welfare State?
Yes 23 20.91%
No 87 79.09%
Voters: 110. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-30-2018, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I do not have to rely on fake news, especially outdated. I can judge from the people I know. Are you really saying conservatives are ignorant and yet preaching women's right to vote created welfare? Give it up for heavens sake.
The OP isn't saying conservatives are ignorant, however, the OP is an ignorant conservative.
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Old 06-30-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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Yes, until the parties effectively switched platforms...
While the parties have switched in some regards, the Republicans never supported a welfare state.
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Old 06-30-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: London
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people can, even now hols down more one and get an education. My granddaughter was raising a child, had a husband, worked full time as a nurse and managed to get a degree in nursing, a BS btw. She also, after finishing getting her DS she continued working full time, by then had 2 little ones and got her nurse practitioners degree. It can be done. anyone holding down 3 jobs is not working full time at any of them most likely.
That was my life from 17 throughout college (my mother disowned me for not wanting to get a boob job, so I was completely on my own), minus the kid, and plus a part time job or two (in addition to the full time one).

I survived and graduated with my two BS degrees, but just barely. It's a miracle that I actually graduated and never got fired from any of my jobs, because I was running on caffeine pills and ramen blocks, 5'10 and down to 105 lbs, and overall unhealthy to the point of a doctor actually shouting at me that I was killing myself with my lifestyle.

I'm just not as strong as your granddaughter, and neither are plenty of people.
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Old 06-30-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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It's all Women's fault...and Obama's (Roll's eyes).
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Old 06-30-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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It's all Women's fault...and Obama's (Roll's eyes).
And Hillary's!
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Old 06-30-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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LBJ gave us the welfare state. Anyone who thinks Trump is rude and crude should read an LBJ biography. Trump doesn't conduct meetings while sitting on the toilet.
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Old 06-30-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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Marxism did, everything after that is just a compromise.
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Old 06-30-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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I do not have to rely on fake news, especially outdated. I can judge from the people I know. Are you really saying conservatives are ignorant and yet preaching women's right to vote created welfare? Give it up for heavens sake.
Consistent with standard models of electoral competition (Duverger 1954; Downs 1957; Shepsle 1991), politicians responded immediately to shifts in electoral preferences as voting rights were extended to women.3 Within a year of suffrage law enactment, patterns of legislative roll call voting shifted, and local public health spending rose by roughly 35%. These findings are consistent with historical accounts: describing the Sheppard-Towner Act of 1921 (a landmark federal public health appropriation immediately following the 19th Amendment in 1920), Richard Meckel (1990) observes that “fear of being punished at the polls by American women, not conviction of the bill’s necessity, seems to have motivated Congress to vote for it.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3046394/


What do we need news for? Theres data that suggest RIGHT AFTER WOMEN gained the right to vote, public spending went up 35% !!!!

Right after women gained the right to vote "the Sheppard-Towner Act of 1921 " was passed - Promotion of the Welfare and Hygiene of Maternity and Infancy Act


The data clearly shows that women played a active role in the last 100 years creating the welfare state and politicians give it to them for votes in return. The data shows it. Just because some "women" on here are offended, dont use welfare, or dont believe that women are a major cause, doesn't make it not true.
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Old 06-30-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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You don't mention where you read it, but perhaps you should consider trying more reputable sources. That sounds like contrived hogwash.

Did you ever stop to consider how many things were happening stemming from that time? For that matter, there was a huge economic boom beginning right then. Maybe that burst of prosperity was due to women getting the vote.

Of course, one thing is true: With the expansion of women's rights, including the right to work, women were no longer so driven to marry, to leech off a man, to angle for the best financial offer, since they had a better chance of earning money themselves. Since you're apparently a man, that should please you.
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Old 06-30-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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You don't mention where you read it, but perhaps you should consider trying more reputable sources. That sounds like contrived hogwash.

Did you ever stop to consider how many things were happening stemming from that time? For that matter, there was a huge economic boom beginning right then. Maybe that burst of prosperity was due to women getting the vote.

Of course, one thing is true: With the expansion of women's rights, including the right to work, women were no longer so driven to marry, to leech off a man, to angle for the best financial offer, since they had a better chance of earning money themselves. Since you're apparently a man, that should please you.
Did Women’s Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government?

Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state govern- ment expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchis

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~i.../LottKenny.pdf


I can keep going, the DATA and Research shows that women's voting patterns brought on todays welfare state. Show me your data or facts rather than OPINION.
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