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Old 06-30-2018, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I already posted a link that contrasts your claims. You are free to post links to your claim.
No you haven't. There is no link in any of your posts. If you did have evidence you would have presented it. Instead all you said was "because you said so".
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Old 06-30-2018, 11:47 PM
 
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Incorrect. Texas keeps statistics on illegal aliens and crime and it has been proven they commit a higher percentage of crimes percentage wise. You have no proof to back up your comment.
https://www.cato.org/blog/white-hous...migrants-crime'

There are many studies. I linked to one that is conservative so I do not have to hear the grumbling.
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:27 AM
 
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I've always said that I don't care where these illegal aliens come from, I want them out. This one has an anarchist facebook page, he shouldn't have been here.

https://www.facebook.com/DenverChann...55965169033271
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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It has already been posted many time the statistics of crime perpetuated by illegals vs. non-illegals. Illegals commit less crimes.

It is fine to want to stop illegal immigration. If is not fine to lie about the reasons.
No, they have said multiple times that "immigrants" have lower rates of crime than citizens, conflating illegals with legal immigrants. And of course legal immigrants commit fewer crimes since they've been vetted and there are fewer of them living here than citizens.
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:35 AM
 
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No, they have said multiple times that "immigrants" have lower rates of crime than citizens, conflating illegals with legal immigrants. And of course legal immigrants commit fewer crimes since they've been vetted and there are fewer of them living here than citizens.
And the only state that collects such exacting data is Texas. And that study is in my link.
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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https://www.cato.org/blog/white-hous...migrants-crime'

There are many studies. I linked to one that is conservative so I do not have to hear the grumbling.
They analyzed data from one state, Texas, which granted is a huge state with a fair number of illegals, but why did their conclusions only draw from a SINGLE year, 2015 even though they looked at Texas Dept of Public Safety data from 2011 to 2017?
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:41 AM
 
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It has already been posted many time the statistics of crime perpetuated by illegals vs. non-illegals. Illegals commit less crimes.

It is fine to want to stop illegal immigration. If is not fine to lie about the reasons.
You guys constantly miss the point or are just being intentionally obtuse. The OP is pointing out how this criminal is an illegal who shouldn't be in this country in the first place. So even if only 1% of illegal aliens committed a crime(obviously much higher than that)beside being here illegally, that is one more crime perpetrated against Americans that would not have occurred otherwise.

Simple concept to understand provided you mind is open enough.


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Old 07-01-2018, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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An important conclusion from the Texas DPS Report, regardless of how the Cato Institute would like to spin it:

https://www.dps.texas.gov/administra...Statistics.htm

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Report Notes

These figures do not attempt to allege that foreign nationals in the country illegally commit more crimes than other groups. It simply identifies thousands of crimes that should not have occurred and thousands of victims that should not have been victimized because the perpetrator should not be here. It is also important to note that these figures represent the minimum number of crimes associated with criminal illegal aliens:

These figures only count arrests in Texas for state offenses. These individuals may have criminal records in other states.
These figures only represent offenses and convictions that are associated with arrest events that occurred between June 1, 2011 and May 31, 2018.
The criminal activity for individuals identified as illegal while in prison is under represented for this time period because they may have been incarcerated during the time frame used in this report.
These figures do not count federal criminal charges.
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:47 AM
 
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You guys constantly miss the point or are just being intentionally obtuse. The OP is pointing out how this criminal is an illegal who shouldn't be in this country in the first place. So even if only 1% of illegal aliens committed a crime(obviously much higher than that)beside being here illegally, that is one more crime perpetrated against Americans that would not have occurred otherwise.

Simple concept to understand provided you mind is open enough.


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Then on that note there should be no foreign tourism whatsoever, Because if even 1% caused crime that is too many. Right? Real simple. Correct? Seriously. Defend foreign tourism.
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:52 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Non U.S. citizen arrested for starting Colorado wildfire


Was he here on a green card, visa, etc.?

Or is he an illegal alien?

Did he walk across the border from Norway?
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