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Old 06-30-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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More quality personnel from abroad on our soil.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-arres...225829408.html

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A man was arrested on Saturday on charges of starting a forest fire in Colorado that has destroyed structures and forced hundreds to evacuate their homes in one of dozens of wildfires raging across the drought-hit U.S. southwest.

Jesper Joergensen, 52, was taken into custody for suspected arson that started the Springs Fire, the most active of around 10 blazes in Colorado, the state hardest hit by fires, according to Costilla County Sheriff's Office Facebook page.

Joergensen is not a U.S. citizen and will be handed over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement once he has faced arson charges, said a Costilla County detention officer. The officer could not immediately say what nationality Joergensen held.
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:48 PM
 
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More quality personnel from abroad on our soil.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-arres...225829408.html
It has already been posted many time the statistics of crime perpetuated by illegals vs. non-illegals. Illegals commit less crimes.

It is fine to want to stop illegal immigration. If is not fine to lie about the reasons.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Typical visitor visa is good for 90 days. The visitor is free to travel throughout the US during that time period.

Do you want all 73 million visitors to wear an ankle bracelet.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Jesper Joergensen sounds Danish not Hispanic.
Damn vikings sneaking in in their snekkja longships.
No mention if he is a visitor, legal resident, or in the US illegally.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:41 PM
 
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It has already been posted many time the statistics of crime perpetuated by illegals vs. non-illegals. Illegals commit less crimes.

It is fine to want to stop illegal immigration. If is not fine to lie about the reasons.

They want to believe that one did bad so they are all bad. Despite the fact that they are much poorer yet commit less crime.

I don't really want people coming here illegally. The difference is I want these people to come here legally but the system is setup right now to not allow that and many don't want to change it.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:49 PM
 
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It has already been posted many time the statistics of crime perpetuated by illegals vs. non-illegals. Illegals commit less crimes.

It is fine to want to stop illegal immigration. If is not fine to lie about the reasons.
Incorrect.

The only accurate statisctics that are kept on the subject are federal, and illegals are vastly overepresented.

Saying that illegals don't commit crimes is exactly the same as saying that the don't vote--we have no way of knowing because no one is allowed to keep count...

except on a federal level in which they are dramatically overrepresented.

Be careful who you are calling a liar when you are lying.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:51 PM
 
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Incorrect.

The only accurate statisctics that are kept on the subject are federal, and illegals are vastly overepresented.

Saying that illegals don't commit crimes is exactly the same as saying that the don't vote--we have no way of knowing because no one is allowed to keep count...

except on a federal level in which they are dramatically overrepresented.

Be careful who you are calling a liar when you are lying.
Incorrect. Texas keeps statistics on illegal aliens and crime. I posted the article.
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Old 06-30-2018, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It has already been posted many time the statistics of crime perpetuated by illegals vs. non-illegals. Illegals commit less crimes.

It is fine to want to stop illegal immigration. If is not fine to lie about the reasons.
To even think that is absurd. Legals are vetted and the criminals are turned away. Whom is turning away the criminal illegals? Other illegals? lol

Illegals commit alot more crimes percentage wise than legals. On top of that when they commit crimes against other illegals which they do, those crimes are often not reported.

A grossly disproportionate share of federal prisoners – 22 percent – are aliens. Roughly 2/3 of these aliens were illegally in the country when they committed their crimes. So that’s over 14 percent of federal prisoners. Yet illegal aliens represent only 3-6 percent of the population.
75 percent of those on the most wanted criminals lists in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

More than 53 percent of burglaries investigated in the border region states of California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas are committed by illegal aliens.



The report, from the Crime Prevention Research Center, used a previously untapped set of data from Arizona that detailed criminal convictions and found that illegal immigrants between 15 and 35 are less than 3 percent of the state’s population, but nearly 8 percent of its prison population.

And the crimes they were convicted of were, on the whole, more serious, said John R. Lott Jr., the report’s author and president of the research center.


21% of those convicted of non-immigration crimes were non-citizens — 2.5 times their share of the population
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Old 06-30-2018, 11:36 PM
 
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To even think that is absurd. Legals are vetted and the criminals are turned away. Whom is turning away the criminal illegals? Other illegals? lol

Illegals commit alot more crimes percentage wise than legals. On top of that when they commit crimes against other illegals which they do, those crimes are often not reported.

A grossly disproportionate share of federal prisoners – 22 percent – are aliens. Roughly 2/3 of these aliens were illegally in the country when they committed their crimes. So that’s over 14 percent of federal prisoners. Yet illegal aliens represent only 3-6 percent of the population.
75 percent of those on the most wanted criminals lists in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

More than 53 percent of burglaries investigated in the border region states of California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas are committed by illegal aliens.



The report, from the Crime Prevention Research Center, used a previously untapped set of data from Arizona that detailed criminal convictions and found that illegal immigrants between 15 and 35 are less than 3 percent of the state’s population, but nearly 8 percent of its prison population.

And the crimes they were convicted of were, on the whole, more serious, said John R. Lott Jr., the report’s author and president of the research center.


21% of those convicted of non-immigration crimes were non-citizens — 2.5 times their share of the population
I already posted a link that contrasts your claims. You are free to post links to your claim.
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Old 06-30-2018, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Incorrect. Texas keeps statistics on illegal aliens and crime. I posted the article.
Incorrect. Texas keeps statistics on illegal aliens and crime and it has been proven they commit a higher percentage of crimes percentage wise. You have no proof to back up your comment.
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