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Bush II and Senate Democrats made an attempt to implement a proposal similar to mine in 2007 and the Republicans torpedoed it.
Its 2018, now.
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If resources are finite...
I am quite sure that resources are in fact finite.
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...why allocate hundreds of millions of dollars to building and maintaining a wall that is unlikely to materially affect the total number of illegal immigrants in the US...
The cost of the wall will be far less than the cost of dealing with illegal aliens over the years. I disagree with your opinion re the probable effectiveness of the wall.
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when those immigrants can be disincentivized from resorting to illegal immigration by both making it easier to enter the country legally and making it more difficult to get employment...
I agree with making it difficult to gain employment. I think we should also make legal immigration more difficult.
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If resources are finite, why spend extra money to house children separately from their parents when a less expensive (and more humane) alternative is available?
Resources are in fact finite.
The least expensive and intrusive means would be to keep them out, together.
In 2018 the Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the Executive and have been unable to advance sensible proposals for immigration reform while preventing the Democrats from doing so. Making DACA recipients permanent legal residents is a great example of something that should be a no-brainer, yet what position have they taken on that in 2018? Democrats have their own issues, but the immigration reform failure can be laid at the feet of Republicans who want to appear tough on illegal immigration without actually being tough on illegal immigration.
I advocate a "Mirror Law". An illegal immigrant will be afforded the same protections and punishments as those currently in effect in his or her country of origin.
A Mexican will be granted the same rights, privileges, and punishments as prescribed by Mexico.
A Honduran by the present laws of Honduras.
Etc.
I am quite sure that resources are in fact finite.
The cost of the wall will be far less than the cost of dealing with illegal aliens over the years. I disagree with your opinion re the probable effectiveness of the wall.
I agree with making it difficult to gain employment. I think we should also make legal immigration more difficult.
Resources are in fact finite.
The least expensive and intrusive means would be to keep them out, together.
Where there's the rub. You want to reduce legal immigration as well when virtually every economist on Earth thinks we should do the opposite. Increased immigration expands the economy, the tax base, and the labor market. We have a labor shortage, a greying populace, and declining birthrates. Look at Japan's fiscal situation. That's where we are headed with folly like this.
I would like to reduce illegal immigration. There is a cheap, humane and effective way of deterring illegal immigration. Additionally, immigrants can be incentivized to emigrate legally if measures are taking to ensure that the process is not unnecessarily onerous. That is not the proposal being floated. Walls don't work to prevent the free movement of people. They never have and never will. Ask the Mongols.
I advocate a "Mirror Law". An illegal immigrant will be afforded the same protections and punishments as those currently in effect in his or her country of origin.
A Mexican will be granted the same rights, privileges, and punishments as prescribed by Mexico.
A Honduran by the present laws of Honduras.
Etc.
I advocate a "Mirror Law". An illegal immigrant will be afforded the same protections and punishments as those currently in effect in his or her country of origin.
A Mexican will be granted the same rights, privileges, and punishments as prescribed by Mexico.
A Honduran by the present laws of Honduras.
Etc.
So you want to scrap the Constitution and create several subclasses of people in the US and apply different laws to each of them? What an expensive, pointless, unworkable, and stupid idea.
If I come from outer a remote region in Nepal that does not proscribe against the sales of narcotics or the rape of women, I'm free to do that in the US?
It's not the baby crying that disturbs me. It's that our court system is so fundamentally unprepared to deal with the children separated from their parent(s). We have people being deported without their dependent children and few options for getting them back. It's difficult for me to see that as anything other than the U.S. engaging in child abduction.
Yes, the administration argued in court that they shouldn't have to (try to) reunite kids with parents that have already been deported.
Just sell them to the highest (adoption) bidder is their plan, I guess.
So you want to scrap the Constitution and create several subclasses of people in the US and apply different laws to each of them? What an expensive, pointless, unworkable, and stupid idea.
We don't have to scrap the constitution. That's the way this country was for a very long time after the constitution was written. There are some groups of people who believe that is how the country still is.
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