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Old 07-09-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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There are plenty of red states that will love going back to the Jim Crow era - to become "great again".
As long as the left keep seeing and portraying the right as cartoonish mustache-twirling villains they will continue to **** up

 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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With the pending announcement of the new Supreme Court Justice, I'm hearing all sorts of horror stories how the Court will go "activist" and implement the conservative dream upon America. Not just Roe, but gay marriage, wage and labor laws, environmental regulations - basically taking us back to the 18th century.

I think this is hyperbole for the most part, but what if Trump is able to install 2 or 3 more hyper-conservative justices in his 8-year reign? We'll have a 7-2 ultra-conservative court which would undo a century's worth of progress.

If this indeed comes to past, and the American people vote in a super-majority of Democrats in retaliation (say, in 2024), the pressure of this hyper-conservative S.C. would be immense. The government would be hamstrung in just about everything the voters demand (such as the restoration of environmental regs.) In this case, the Dems would have 2 choices - one is to pack the court, i.e. bringing it up to 13 or 15 seats, with the president installing a crew of hyper-liberal justices to tilt the court back to liberal again, -OR- simply abolish the S.C. altogether. Just amend the Constitution, and voila, that storied institution is gone. The more I think about it, the better it sounds. Who needs a branch of government filled with unelected elders who cannot be held accountable to the desires of the American people? Eliminating the S.C. sure would solve a lot of problems, imo.

Why would President Ivanka or the Republican super-majority do any of those things?

FTR, she's already over 35 and a natural born US citizen.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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Ask yourself if you'd be willing to have the Supreme Court abolished if Hillary were currently POTUS and stacking the deck with her hand-picked candidates?

This is like the whole California succession talk; a permanent solution to a temporary "problem."

People want to cut and run when things aren't going in their favor, imagine how many and who would be advocating for abolishing the electoral college if that's what had secured Hillary's victory in 2016.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:11 PM
 
Location: southern california
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The lefts new remedy for those it disagrees with.
Abolish government
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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Ask yourself if you'd be willing to have the Supreme Court abolished if Hillary were currently POTUS and stacking the deck with her hand-picked candidates?

This is like the whole California succession talk; a permanent solution to a temporary "problem."

People want to cut and run when things aren't going in their favor, imagine how many and who would be advocating for abolishing the electoral college if that's what had secured Hillary's victory in 2016.
Supreme court should never have been a lifetime appointment, it's just a stupid feature of the system. Should have been 10 years and out. Same would hold true if the court was packed Left. The justices should reflect the views of a half generation, not a half century.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:18 PM
 
Location: USA
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The lefts new remedy for those it disagrees with.
Abolish government
The right proposes the same. You can see it daily here on C-D.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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Supreme court should never have been a lifetime appointment, it's just a stupid feature of the system. Should have been 10 years and out.
Democrats have only the Obama WH and Demcrats own arrogance to blame. Obama’s received what he called a “shellacking” in the 2010 midterms, his destruction of his party has largely been overlooked by Democrats, but his indifference to the future of the presidency and of the Supreme Court is an act of political malpractice impossible to ignore.

Ginsberg is now 85, the real offense, which actually merits outrage from the left, is that President Obama did not convince liberal Justice Ginsburg to retire during the many years that Democrats controlled the Senate. Why did President Obama not plan for such a possibility, which would at least have guaranteed four liberal votes on the court? The obvious answer is that he never anticipated that the opportunity would pass.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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Remember Democrats euphoria in 2013, when Harry Reid invoked the “nuclear option,” a historic move that changed a long-standing Senate rule, dropping the number of votes needed to overcome a filibuster from 60 to a simple majority for executive appointments and most judicial nominations. McConnell and many other Republicans warned Reid that he would regret implementing the nuclear option....

And here we are.

Thousands of people have retweeted Reid and thousands more commenting — lost on no one is the irony of the situation.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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Supreme court should never have been a lifetime appointment, it's just a stupid feature of the system. Should have been 10 years and out. Same would hold true if the court was packed Left. The justices should reflect the views of a half generation, not a half century.
Actually it should reflect the view of the constitution as written. The foundation set by the founders that has maintained the republic for over two hundred years and adherence to it looks promising for another 200 years.
Its not a document for socialism or communism or the collective but based on individual rights.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:30 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Ask yourself if you'd be willing to have the Supreme Court abolished if Hillary were currently POTUS and stacking the deck with her hand-picked candidates?

This is like the whole California succession talk; a permanent solution to a temporary "problem."

People want to cut and run when things aren't going in their favor, imagine how many and who would be advocating for abolishing the electoral college if that's what had secured Hillary's victory in 2016.
i heard plenty such demands from leftists in november 2016.
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