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I have ZERO compassion towards the so called allies and these NATO members.
They have been talking for years that "We’re not hiring the US for protection, we’re mutually agreeing that our militaries will forcibly sodomise any attacking nation. The US is the only one to ever invoke this agreement (NATO article 5)."
Do you have any ideas how our foreign bases helping the local economy? How come NO countries mention that, huh?
I think we (the U.S.) should STOP being the world police and let these ungrateful people do what their little hearts desire to do. See what happens!
Last edited by lilyflower3191981; 07-14-2018 at 09:30 AM..
I have ZERO compassion towards the so called allies and these NATO members.
They have been talking for years that "We’re not hiring the US for protection, we’re mutually agreeing that our militaries will forcibly sodomise any attacking nation. The US is the only one to ever invoke this agreement (NATO article 5)."
Do you have any ideas how our foreign bases helping the local economy? How come NO countries mention that, huh?
I think we (the U.S.) should STOP being the world police and let these ungrateful people do what their little hearts desire to do. See what happens!
I have heard this argument before, however most of your troops have gone home, there used to be over 400,000 US Service Personnel in Europe during the Cold War, today there are less than 65,000. We have adjusted to the loss of over 335,000 and today US Forces don't have that big an impact in most European countries.
There was a time when the UK alone used to have more US Service Personnel that than are now in the entire continent of Europe.
Vast bases such as Burtonwood (near Warrington and close to Liverpool and Manchester), were home to nearly 20,000 Americans and was the largest US Air base in Europe, as well as numerous others such as Sculthorpe which had over 10,000 US Personnel. Indeed the US Strategic Air Command had a massive presence in Britain during the Cold War.
There is little trace of Burtonwood today, it's now part of Junction 8 of the M62 Motorway and what was once the airfield is also occupied by the Welcome Break Burtonwood service station.
Last edited by Brave New World; 07-14-2018 at 11:24 AM..
They were both US military conflicts with support from some NATO members.
The rest of the world isn't going around looking for boogymen and when failing to find any they manufacture them.
The US has a foreign policy problem, NATO doesn't have a spending problem. We do.
This is a good point.
If Nato members have to increase their spending then they would probably put a stop to US led wars since they have to help pay for it.
Mr trump demands that people do their part -he is a landlord he expects the rent to be paid and on time
No free ride on the backs of others
Too many people on earth believe in Santa claus
Mr trump demands that people do their part -he is a landlord he expects the rent to be paid and on time
No free ride on the backs of others
Too many people on earth believe in Santa claus
The bases don't belong to the US, and you can't pay rent on something you own.
Don't like it, then leave.
There is a reason that they are referred to as US Visiting Forces.
I have heard this argument before, however most of your troops have gone home, there used to be over 400,000 US Service Personnel in Europe during the Cold War, today there are less than 65,000. We have adjusted to the loss of over 335,000 and today US Forces don't have that big an impact in most European countries.
There was a time when the UK alone used to have more US Service Personnel that than are now in the entire continent of Europe.
Vast bases such as Burtonwood (near Warrington and close to Liverpool and Manchester), were home to nearly 20,000 Americans and was the largest US Air base in Europe, as well as numerous others such as Sculthorpe which had over 10,000 US Personnel. Indeed the US Strategic Air Command had a massive presence in Britain during the Cold War.
There is little trace of Burtonwood today, it's now part of Junction 8 of the M62 Motorway and what was once the airfield is also occupied by the Welcome Break Burtonwood service station.
You heard WHAT argument, may I ask?
Look, NATO guidelines encourage all members to spend 2 percent of their respective country’s GDP on their own military defense, so that each member can defend itself to a certain degree without relying too often on pooled NATO forces and equipment. In 2014, NATO leaders came to an agreement that members who spend under that 2 percent benchmark are to work towards reaching that goal within a decade.
So, it is NOT America who came up with this rule, agreement is agreement, period. It is not about taking sides either.
So if you guys want our troops to go home, you need to talk to ALL members of the NATOS. Come up with a new agreement and follow the rule.
Simple as that.
if the other country finds our performance under the treaty to benefit them, they may agree to cooperative measures or contributions to the joint defense. This might include free or reduced rent for bases or facilities, provision of host-country goods or support services, or the creation and operation of cooperating military forces.
So i can see why regular Germans want to kick us out. (maybe due to national pride, I don't know), but ask the German government, do they REALLY want America to close the base? LOL I am waiting, waiting, and waiting for an HONEST answer.
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