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View Poll Results: Can a sitting president be indicted?
Yes 84 63.64%
No 48 36.36%
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:46 AM
 
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If Giuliani and his team of legal eagles brought this matter to the SCOTUS, I have little doubt which way Kavenaugh, Alito, and Thomas would vote. Most likely, Gorsuch has already been vetted as well.

Roberts? Not so sure.

Protecting a President from criminal charges would seriously undermine the legitimacy of the Supreme Court as well as the rule of law.

I'm not sure Roberts would vote that.

Guess we'll see.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:46 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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There’s a debate as to whether a sitting president can be indicted for crimes. I’d say a sitting president can be indicted, otherwise the framers would have specifically stated that he can’t be, which they didn’t.

There is no evidence in either the text nor from the Constitutional Convention of any intent to create immunity for a president from indictment,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-as-president/
Right, because President Trump lived in NY where there are very few shady characters.
He was in construction and real estate. No money changing hands there!

The Left thinks the answer to this thread is YES.

They are wholly unprepared for what would happen, but it seems we're about to find out according to threats made by Democrats in the media.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:49 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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If Giuliani and his team of legal eagles brought this matter to the SCOTUS, I have little doubt which way Kavenaugh, Alito, and Thomas would vote. Most likely, Gorsuch has already been vetted as well.

Roberts? Not so sure.

Protecting a President from criminal charges would seriously undermine the legitimacy of the Supreme Court as well as the rule of law.

I'm not sure Roberts would vote that.

Guess we'll see.
Sorry but that occurred with Obamacare. We're on our way to a lot of pain in America.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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Right, because President Trump lived in NY where there are very few shady characters.
He was in construction and real estate. No money changing hands there!

The Left thinks the answer to this thread is YES.

They are wholly unprepared for what would happen, but it seems we're about to find out according to threats made by Democrats in the media.
What, specifically?

I assume you mean the possibility of a President Pence. I am not thrilled about that notion, but if Trump is indeed guilty of criminal behavior, what's the alternative? To say that a president is above the law?
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:01 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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What, specifically?

I assume you mean the possibility of a President Pence. I am not thrilled about that notion, but if Trump is indeed guilty of criminal behavior, what's the alternative? To say that a president is above the law?
You still don't get it. Trump is NOT indeed guilty of criminal behavior. But as you know, that doesn't matter.

You are OK with whatever trumped-up charges can be lodged in order to reverse the 2016 election.

Ensuing civil unrest would be laid at the feet of Democrats. Just sayin.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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The Supreme Court being the final word on matters is a tradition that has infused some stability to contentious matters. Even when their decisions are flat-out bad, "they can lower the temperature of our political arguments while allowing progress over time ... while culture and politics continue to evolve."

But "While judicial supremacy has the power of tradition and consensus, there have been challenges."

In 1832 President Andrew Jackson ignored a Supreme Court ruling involving Native American rights in the state of Georgia. "John Marshall has made his decision," he said. "Now let him enforce it."

Eisenhower did back the Supreme Court's Brown v. Board of Education decision, sending troops to Little Rock.

https://theweek.com/articles/800658/...ibly-dangerous

Delegitimizing the mortal authority of the Supreme Court would have long-term consequences that Roberts would undoubtedly take into serious consideration in voting on whether the rule of law applied to Presidents or not.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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You still don't get it. Trump is NOT indeed guilty of criminal behavior. But as you know, that doesn't matter.

You are OK with whatever trumped-up charges can be lodged in order to reverse the 2016 election.

Ensuing civil unrest would be laid at the feet of Democrats. Just sayin.
Trump is an un-indicted co-conspirator in crimes that his attorney is going to prison over.

There is ample evidence available to the public about witness tampering and obstruction of justice.

Insisting that Trump should not be indicted for crimes that others go to prison is saying that he is above the rule of law.

It's just that simple.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:28 AM
 
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You still don't get it. Trump is NOT indeed guilty of criminal behavior. But as you know, that doesn't matter.

You are OK with whatever trumped-up charges can be lodged in order to reverse the 2016 election.

Ensuing civil unrest would be laid at the feet of Democrats. Just sayin.
You seem to have missed one critical word in my post: If.

It's funny how two letters can change so completely the meaning of a statement, isn't it?
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:00 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Trump is an un-indicted co-conspirator in crimes that his attorney is going to prison over.

There is ample evidence available to the public about witness tampering and obstruction of justice.

Insisting that Trump should not be indicted for crimes that others go to prison is saying that he is above the rule of law.

It's just that simple.
No. Making up "crimes" to further your political agenda is what is happening. But keep trying.
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:02 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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You seem to have missed one critical word in my post: If.

It's funny how two letters can change so completely the meaning of a statement, isn't it?
You're right. Word choices can imply personal beliefs.
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