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So then the regulations Trump lessened since he became President. Maintains Crystal-clear water for ths in at this rally and in general?
That is easy to say.... but so much was just axed in regulations .... I'm not sure what is left to protect what we have from new mining and cleaning up after land is Strip-mined? Hopefully that is intact. Few independent mines are left, especially in PA. Still Big Coal des most and owns the lands.
But then .... so much damage was done in the past. That continued mining can't much more. A area and mountain either has coal or not. Far less like oil where we discover more pockets and ways to get deeper oil out.
Just that Crystal water in the Coal regions. If not referring to unblemished areas preserved or areas that lacked coal to mine? Was a bit of irony. THAT is what was picked up on in his comment.
Just stop. You are trying to defend a thread that is a lie THAT IS MY POINT!. Go away already.
It might also be of interest to note that Trump's best buddy WVA governor Justice owes big bucks to the state of Kentucky for unpaid coal taxes that should go to support Kentucky's public schools.
Justice has also left his Kentucky mountaintop removal and strip mines "restored" as required by federal law ("restored" is in quotes because there's no such thing - you can't put it back though you can at least grade it a bit and toss on some non-native grass seed and a bunch of fertilizer. Justice hasn't even done this - he just whines that he's being picked on.)
Birds of a feather...
Yeah and Obama's buddy Al Sharpton still owes millions in back taxes.
Knock it off. You are exaggerating like all hysterical Leftists do. Trump never said what the thread says he did so it's #fakenews and you are here pushing the same lie. Knock it off already. Water in the mountains is as clean as ever stop lying. Yes there are some polluted areas, but that's a very tiny portion most of it is better than bottled water.
Dbones, I'll invite you to go down to Perry County, Kentucky yourself and see what Jean Ritchie was singing about. Sure, go ahead and drink that water, if you don't believe her or us. Just don't ask us to pay your doctor bills afterwards.
I first saw those poisoned waters when I was in college back in the late '60s and visited Beech Fork Clinic, part of the Frontier Nursing Service founded years previously by Mary Breckinridge. Beech Fork flowed below the clinic - but it was orange. Children were ordered to keep out of the creek, which was completely barren of all living things, plant and animal. Exposure to that water would burn the skin. Why? Run-off from strip mining bore toxic chemicals released by that foul process.
On the same trip, I also saw a once beautiful small mountain creek filled with debris - boulders, torn-up timber - about two feet away from the front porch of a modest, neat little home that overlooked the creek. What happened? A strip mine above the creek and the little house had blasted carelessly and set a landslide in motion, roaring down that pretty little creek in the middle of the night. The people inside were fortunate to escape with their lives. The house was useless. a house farther up the holler was comoletely destroyed - fortunately, no one died in the destruction here, unlike other incidents and tragedies caused solely by careless mining practices and inadequate regulation.
Though the tons of debris might be removed, that creek and others like it will never be the same, as the poisonous chemicals leach out of the devastated earth year after year, into the ground waters.
You are an ignoramus to claim that the waters of the Appalachian coalfields are clean.
If you don't want to visit Perry County, Kentucky, or can't stand to have your delusions shot down, then use Google Earth and have a look at the colossal and irreparable damage mountaintop removal has done to the oldest mountains on the face of the earth, where the richest and most diverse forests once grew. The once clear waters which flow from those devastated and raped mountains are black, orange, murky and befouled.
You can't put it back. But Trump shouldn't lie and call truth not truth, nor should he call poisoned waters clean. They are not. And you shouldn't be so quick to believe him. Do your own research instead. Trump is just as toxic as are those black waters.
Mining still goes on, and waters are still being polluted. Educate yourself.
Well no duh?
Educate yourself on industrial waste nationwide. Their effluent has to go somewhere.
Mining is not the only industry that contributes to water pollution.
Water pollution is not specific to "Appalachia".
This has been going on since the industrial revolution.
Although more can be done we have made great strides in environmental protection and conservation.
Because some streams are polluted does not equate to all streams or drinking water.
Well no duh?
Educate yourself on industrial waste nationwide. Their effluent has to go somewhere.
Mining is not the only industry that contributes to water pollution.
Water pollution is not specific to "Appalachia".
*yawn*
This thread is about mining and it is about water pollution and it is about Appalachia, specifically West Virginia.
Well no duh?
Educate yourself on industrial waste nationwide. Their effluent has to go somewhere.
Mining is not the only industry that contributes to water pollution.
Water pollution is not specific to "Appalachia".
This has been going on since the industrial revolution.
Although more can be done we have made great strides in environmental protection and conservation.
Because some streams are polluted does not equate to all streams or drinking water.
what is with this -- dude and duh comments. But the context is
West Virginia was the rally, Coal mining is the Big thing Trump ran on and to boom.
- Trump chose WV to rally the troops to maintain loyalty.
- He spoke on maintaining Crystal-clear water to declare they have and will under him.
- He apparently, did not specify drinking water and current clean and clear creeks and reservoirs, or the Nations Clean Water Act.
When President speaks .... every detail is going to be picked up on. It is no secret that Trump erased or continues .... to erase regulations. ESPECIALLY if Obama signed them. TRUMP LIVES TO GET EVEN. It drives him as a MAFIA BOSS.
I do not disagree with all his politics. But He was at war with the media MOST HIS LIFE. You can view on youtube .... interviews back to the 80s he was younger and happy looking. Yet if asked the wrong question..... HE clearly, rather then spin.... was a how dare you not praise me for what this interview on a building or casino he opened .... went to anything else. He even walked out on interviews.
So this war with the media is not just politics and his being President. A President should learn how to SPIN to a non-answer and simply a -- I'm not going to comment on that now as he wishes to discuss ......
Civil interviews are respected and reporters to interviewers. Are seeking something new to get info on. You answer a question.... best to be more accurate then overly bloated or wrong. OR YOU SHOULD SPIN IT.
Every Politician can have a blunder.... but you don't give the opponent constant ammunition, they then aim right back then. When Fox news even says Trump misspoke or is mistaken? It should not keep happening.
All the media s doing is picking up on Trump's comments and IRONY in presentation and what is said given this Coal industry State where ecological damage is prevalent.
Just being clear on specifically referring to MAINTAINING CREEKS and streams from more contamination in better mining practices and maintaining a CLEAN WATER ACT. His administration WILL DO in West Virginia .... would prevent the irony in a comment that CAN EASILY BE SEEN.
It is politics as usual if clear and precise comments are not made and then you get SUCH AS THIS THREAD TOPIC. Irony in his choice of words in a region Coal mining blemished waterways are common.
Anyway ... I'm done wearing out my 2-cents here and thread will just go to Political Rhetoric, so common in this forum.
This thread is about mining and it is about water pollution and it is about Appalachia.
Go peddle it somewhere else.
Well if posters would stop pretending water pollution does not occur outside of Appalachia, which by the way stretches from NY to AL, consisting of 420 counties in 13 states, or that water pollution is somehow a new thing.
And actually this tread is not about water pollution or Appalachia. Its about Trump bashing leading with a false quote. Trump didn't say "Appalachia had crystal clean water".
During a campaign rally for Republican candidates in Charleston Tuesday, President Donald Trump said the United States already has clean water, .......“I want clean air. I want crystal clean water, and we’ve got it,” Trump said.
Trump called the United States the “cleanest country on the planet.”
Normal people are not naive enough to believe ALL the water in the US is crystal clean water or that there is no industrial effluent or that there is no crystal clean water in all of the US or "Appalachia" for that matter.
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