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Old 08-30-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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Because they're highly regulated, centrally-planned economies with very little freedom for entrepreneurs.

I'll ask again:

-What economic education do you possess?
-Do you subscribe to the Keynesian School or the Austrian School?
-Who is your favorite economist?

So you are saying that tariffs work. You can't have it both ways.



Democrat Logic
  • China has tariffs to prevent American goods from competing - Good
  • Europe has tariffs to prevent American goods from competing - Good
  • Trump enacts tariffs to level field with China & Europe - Bad
Has to be seen to be believed.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:29 PM
 
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Because they're highly regulated, centrally-planned economies with very little freedom for entrepreneurs.

I'll ask again:

-What economic education do you possess?
-Do you subscribe to the Keynesian School or the Austrian School?
-Who is your favorite economist?
That remains true of China, but not most of Europe. How are European countries centrally planned? They have more government regulations in place, but still have free enterprise.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:29 PM
 
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Generally China enacts retaliatory tariff's. We can't beat them on price so they have no reason to enact them otherwise.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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So you are saying that tariffs work. You can't have it both ways.
So you're saying you prefer centrally-planned, Marxist economies.

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Democrat Logic
  • China has tariffs to prevent American goods from competing - Good
  • Europe has tariffs to prevent American goods from competing - Good
  • Trump enacts tariffs to level field with China & Europe - Bad
Has to be seen to be believed.
Kitty--why in the world do you think I'm a Democrat?

Don't you know the difference between a libertarian and a leftist? Do you know what anarcho-capitalism is?
  • All tariffs are theft from profits and income.
  • All tariffs are theft from profits and income.
  • It's not the duty of the President to pick winners and losers in the free market.

For the third time:

-What economic education do you possess?
-Do you subscribe to the Keynesian School or the Austrian School?
-Who is your favorite economist?
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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That remains true of China, but not most of Europe. How are European countries centrally planned? They have more government regulations in place, but still have free enterprise.
Government regulations of any sort are antithetical to free-market capitalism. Most European countries still have some nationalized industries.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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Kitty--why in the world do you think I'm a Democrat?
My bad. I assumed you were because you hold Trump to a different standard than you hold the members of the EU and the heads of China.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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My bad. I assumed you were because you hold Trump to a different standard than you hold the members of the EU and the heads of China.
I hold ALL State agents to the same standard--the lowest one possible. I want the complete and total abolition of the government and a society based on voluntary exchange.

What kind of a Democrat says "taxation is theft?"

For the FOURTH time:

-What economic education do you possess?
-Do you subscribe to the Keynesian School or the Austrian School?
-Who is your favorite economist?
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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Zerohedge....

The tariffs between US-EU have been around 3% on both sides, so all the talk about Europe ripping US off was only to get people like the OP wound up with fake news.

The positive side is that Trump is trying to claw his way back to square one in some areas.

“We are willing to bring down even our car tariffs down to zero … if the U.S. does the same,” - Malmström
That's a pretty misleading figure! The unweighted average is 5.2% for the EU and 3.5% for us. However when you break it down to specifics for example: 10% on autos compared to 2.5% for us. There is a lot of work to be done and the previous administration punted! Personally I'd like to see no tariffs as they are just a tax on the consumer.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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That's a pretty misleading figure! The unweighted average is 5.2% for the EU and 3.5% for us. However when you break it down to specifics for example: 10% on autos compared to 2.5% for us. There is a lot of work to be done and the previous administration punted! Personally I'd like to see no tariffs as they are just a tax on the consumer.
The previous Admin joined the TPP which abolished those tariffs on both sides.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:41 PM
 
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My bad. I assumed you were because you hold Trump to a different standard than you hold the members of the EU and the heads of China.
Really? Where do you see that? Rebeldor is not even remotely a Democrat. And you post here enough you should know that by now.


Also why don't you answer the questions posed to you about your economic education, favorite economic ideology, and favorite economist?
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