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Old 09-22-2018, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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No sympathy if you can't beat stupid in a debate. I beat them all the time.

Stupid is trying to tell us what the evidence says before its known. This thread and plenty of others are full of post like that from the anti-Trumpers speculating.
How many times have we heard " we got Trump now" ? To many to count the last two years.
Then you are also speculating that there is NO evidence or proof. Which you also don't know to be the case.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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Then you are also speculating that there is NO evidence or proof. Which you also don't know to be the case.

The absence of evidence is evidence not speculation.
There is nothing there until there is something there.

Let Rummy explain it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Asia
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How many times have we heard "we got Trump now"?
Just you wait! Boob Mueller has the goods on Trump! Any day, now!
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Who has their job still ? Comey or Trump ?
Who has written a book and is enjoying retirement, and who is under both state and federal investigation, partially driven by not his firing of Comey, but his inability to keep his mouth shut about why he did it?

Loose lips sink ships. Someone should have informed President Mushroom of this.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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I think it's a pretty safe bet that with all of the former Trump insiders now cooperating with Mueller they will find some very seedy, and very likely illegal, activity by the President. I mean you kind of have to accept this as a possibility. If it comes to pass I look forward to the Trump camp trying their best to explain or dismiss the evidence. That will be a glorious day on the internet.
Will they find a conspiracy with Russia to interfere with the election ? Mueller will continue until he finds a reason to impeach Trump, and that pleases the anti-Trumpers, but the alleged conspiracy was the foundation of this investigation.
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Old 09-22-2018, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Will they find a conspiracy with Russia to interfere with the election ? Mueller will continue until he finds a reason to impeach Trump, and that pleases the anti-Trumpers, but the alleged conspiracy was the foundation of this investigation.
Who knows what they will find but with a guy like Donald Trump there is certainly a good possibility they may find something illegal. It does not have to be conspiracy with Russia, Nixon never broke into Watergate. It could be his orchestrating a cover up, obstruction, or something totally different.

An investigation goes where the evidence takes it and who knows where that may end up? And there is absolutely nothing wrong with the FBI following up on other possible crimes that were committed even if it was not the original topic of the investigation.
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Old 09-22-2018, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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The absence of evidence is evidence not speculation.
There is nothing there until there is something there.
You don't know there is an absence of evidence, because you haven't seen what Mueller's got. You don't know what Mueller's got, because he hasn't disclosed anything yet. So yes, you ARE speculating.
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Old 09-22-2018, 03:13 PM
 
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You don't know there is an absence of evidence, because you haven't seen what Mueller's got. You don't know what Mueller's got, because he hasn't disclosed anything yet. So yes, you ARE speculating.
That's only speculation on your part. You don't know what I know.
Your argument is nothing more than the dog chasing its tail.
Speculating about speculating. Speculation therapy.
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Old 09-22-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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That's only speculation on your part. You don't know what I know.
Yes, actually I do know what you know, because you're not a member of Mueller's investigative team. You know the same things about what Mueller may or may not have as I do, because the both of us are members of the general public who only know whatever information has been made to the general public. Which is to say, not much so far.
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Old 09-22-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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Yes, actually I do know what you know, because you're not a member of Mueller's investigative team. You know the same things about what Mueller may or may not have as I do, because the both of us are members of the general public who only know whatever information has been made to the general public. Which is to say, not much so far.
Which was my point all along.
The absence of evidence is all we really have. Everything else is speculation.
But what people are doing is speculating and acting like its a fact.
Mueller's got this and he's got that and he's going do this and that. Its all BS.
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