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Old 05-10-2019, 07:30 PM
 
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It seems to me that maybe she had an agenda against this person in her building, and then tried to use the "Sorry, I'm just a stupid idiot, but also a cop, can I use that to get off" defense. I just don't know what else to make of this.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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It seems to me that maybe she had an agenda against this person in her building, and then tried to use the "Sorry, I'm just a stupid idiot, but also a cop, can I use that to get off" defense. I just don't know what else to make of this.
Again absurd. As is clear on her 911 call she valued her job highly. And any such affair is the end of her law enforcement career...and she knows it.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:08 PM
 
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From a practical standpoint, if said criminal is point a firearm at you, one might want to consider cooperating. Of course one is not under any obligation to do so, but one might want to strongly consider it.
From a practical standpoint, the only people who know exactly what to do when a gun is pointing at them are people who are accustomed to having a gun pointed at them. Otherwise, people are unable to predict even their own reactions when suddenly caught in their kitchens wearing nothing but a robe by someone with a gun shouting stuff, caught too much by surprise and shock even to register what's being said to them.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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From a practical standpoint, the only people who know exactly what to do when a gun is pointing at them are people who are accustomed to having a gun pointed at them. Otherwise, people are unable to predict even their own reactions when suddenly caught in their kitchens wearing nothing but a robe by someone with a gun shouting stuff, caught too much by surprise and shock even to register what's being said to them.
Note there's a whole litany of excuses for how she reacted but he was supposed to be fully cognizant of what was going on and who she was and should have *complied*.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:14 PM
 
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Again absurd. As is clear on her 911 call she valued her job highly. And any such affair is the end of her law enforcement career...and she knows it.
Well couldn't she just be pretending that she values it highly from the call? I mean are you going to believe her, since she broke into someone's apartment and murdered them? If she's murder, she's probably want to make herself look as respectable as possible in the end still.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Again absurd. As is clear on her 911 call she valued her job highly. And any such affair is the end of her law enforcement career...and she knows it.
Yes, it's clear on her 911 call that her job was her primary concern.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:15 PM
 
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Acting oddly is not enough for probable cause on drugs though, I don't think. Lots of criminals act oddly when committing crimes and judges do not issue search warrants for drugs on their places. Acting oddly, is not enough legally, at least not that I have heard of, for legal probable cause.
I've never heard of a case in which they did not search the home of a criminal suspect for more clues to the crime. That's how they find out things like, "He had a cache of guns" and "he had a map of the victim's daily activities."
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I've never heard of a case in which they did not search the home of a criminal suspect for more clues to the crime. That's how they find out things like, "He had a cache of guns" and "he had a map of the victim's daily activities."
It is reported that she told them to go ahead and search her place if they wished. I presume they did.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:32 PM
 
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Wow, don't know if I've read so much narrow minded conjecturing before ...

Or you're tired, you're staring at you're instagram feed, you're day dreaming about what you're gonna do that weekend, you're thinking about that cute guy/gal at work .... YOU may be "hypervigilant", doesn't mean everyone else is.
That makes sense up to a point -- up to the point where her key doesn't work, or she finds the door ajar. Then all of those distractions go away.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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But not trying to find some unbelievable conspiracy that she shot him for some personal vendetta or such. That is all simply absurd.
Shooting someone is not a conspiracy.

A conspiracy is a secret plan by more than one person working together to do something unlawful or harmful.
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