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Old 09-09-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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So not voting for corruption and Goldman Sachs mean that the only alternative is to move to Venezuela?
No, because you want the government to legislate "fairness".

Venezuela isn't your only option! Try Cuba!
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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America's Real Economy: It isn't Booming Thread Title~~

Exactly!! That's because of what has been said throughout this thread. Economy#'s only reflect the"MARKET" certainly not what mid-lower class folks experience!!

SO, when did voter's realize that factoid when they voted for a NOTED Businessman who USE and abused the system?? Just maybe ignorant un-educated ones believed DJT's snake-oil that he WOULD FIX things..meanwhile.. he moved forward to PAD pockets of that top 1-5%'er's!

COL has increased far beyond whatever crumb of increased wages middle income folks have realized and will NEVER be assisting them!! Meanwhile.. DJT and his Talking Heads promote yet more BS/Propoganda that DJT's Administration/GOP has made a HUUUGE difference for everyday American's..

Yes, they have made a difference.. Rich getting richer ..Middle and lower class getting poorer! There's a reason Administration doesn't talk about his economical progress.. and deflects to his "Enemy List" punch backs .. DJT Administration inputs year half+ has completely degraded America's status in the World..and collapse Trade Relations that is costing daily/.weekly for so many hard working American Citizens!

Hate tootle my American friends..BUT your POTUS is selling regular American's OUT to the highest BIDDER//and the only who will benefit will be folks like DJT + lobbyists+ Foreign Powers who fill coffers for personal GAIN ( Emolument Clause)! DJT has turned American Government ( Congress) into a money machine for Political gain.. Never mind creating what was once a GOP platform.. DEBT.. as a NOW DONT Give a SH$t montra!!

This new GOP ( past decade+) claims of deficits being EVIL.. is NOW OKAY!! Got to remember.. deficits is rising in a " Booming Economy" HOW is that even possible??? Look to who is creating it
^^^^^ Why do you care about or bother yourself re any of that? You're not an American. You have Justin.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:35 PM
 
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No, because you want the government to legislate "fairness".

Venezuela isn't your only option! Try Cuba!
Are you serious? If you dont vote for corruption and instead vote to support higher benefits for the disabled, or higher minimum wage, you are voting for a Venezuelan system?

This makes absolutely no sense. Just stop voting for corruption and stop carrying the water of the ruling donor class. They are doing just fine without you. They dont need your help.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Trump is already way behind on that goal. The economy grew far below 3 percent in his first year. With oil prices high, fracking is growing strongly again so Trump, like Obama gets some extra growth points for that. Obama even had a quarter of above 5% growth. These quarterly growth rates are meaningless.

How can anyone not laugh when people just a few months ago said the economy was terrible and the jobs created were all crappy jobs and now right after Trump is in office, suddenly its all rainbows and unicorns and those who struggle are losers? This is the sign of a cult. Not rational thinking.

No president enters office with his policies already in place on the first day.

Generally, the first year is a continuation of the previous president's policies.

Changes go into effect the following year along with the first budget.

Trump's tax cut, for example, didn't go into effect until January of 2017, so gains or losses after that can be considered the results of changes in policy.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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Ditto.

We should not be importing competition to our low skilled labor, which would, of course, skew supply-demand and lower low skilled wage levels.

I believe in Fair Market Value which relies on a fairly obtained supply. Illegal aliens do not fit in that equation. Those who adore sanctuary cities truly despise American born, low skilled labor. That is reprehensible.
Exactly. Liberals can't be for illegal immigration and legal mass chain immigration and be for the working and middle class.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:39 PM
 
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Are you serious? If you dont vote for corruption and instead vote to support higher benefits for the disabled, or higher minimum wage, you are voting for a Venezuelan system?

This makes absolutely no sense. Just stop voting for corruption and stop carrying the water of the ruling donor class. They are doing just fine without you. They dont need your help.
The donor class, as you enviously call them, is the tax base that sustains the disabled as well as all of those on any social welfare program.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:39 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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How do one third of all workers make less than $12 an hour?

You can make more than that flipping burgers at McDonalds.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:40 PM
 
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No president enters office with his policies already in place on the first day.

Generally, the first year is a continuation of the previous president's policies.

Changes go into effect the following year along with the first budget.

Trump's tax cut, for example, didn't go into effect until January of 2017, so gains or losses after that can be considered the results of changes in policy.
3% average annual growth during his time as president is the goal. Or was it 4%?

So far, he's way behind on that goal, even with high oil prices, a booming oil industry and strong global growth.

I am sure the excuses will come as to why he couldnt achieve the goal. One thing is for sure; it is never, ever Trump's fault. A typical narcissist will always, every time, blame someone else and Trump has never admitted any mistake. Its an A+ presidency, best ever, incredible, amazing...meanwhile, the working class is getting crushed and Goldman Sachs laugh their heads off.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:42 PM
 
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The donor class, as you enviously call them, is the tax base that sustains the disabled as well as all of those on any social welfare program.
Why such a meek and submissive attitude towards the donor class? They dont care about you. They are simply interested in extracting your money and wealth and transferring it to themselves. We are approaching Latin American inequality levels now, with a tiny super rich elite at the top ruling with an iron fist. Why do you carry their water?
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:42 PM
 
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Sometimes they do have nice jobs...for example the auto manufacturing workers in Detroit.
How would they know that the day would come and they would lose their great job? .
Easy. Read the D3 annual reports-which were public. They were horrible 5 years before the crash. Read about the crushing liabilities they had due to massive pension costs. Read the market share reports -also public-bad for D3 a decade before they fell.

A blind man could see their bankruptcy coming.

A blind man could see massive automation coming. Most labor hours, on a car being made, are a robots today.
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