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Old 09-10-2018, 04:23 AM
 
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Mmmmm-hmm. He's paying a man (Wilbur Ross) who is worth 4.5 billion dollars. He's paying that man $196,700 per year.
And this makes sense to you?


No. A man with a net worth of 4.5 billion dollars does not need a 197K job.
Neither does the woman who has 1 billion. Betsy DeVoss.
Even John Kelly has 5M.
The chance for a great salary and an early retirement are not why these people work for the government.
Of course they do. The corrupt crooks are enriching themselves and their cronies. The wage is not why they do it. The power that comes with the jobs is why they do it.
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Old 09-10-2018, 06:49 AM
 
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The masses are in retail restaurants, low end stuff. USA has 3 million cashiers-#1 profession.

As for the rest, large % of paralegal jobs are robots now, btw. Much of clerical accounting, too, is starting to automate. If it is a rote task, a robot will get the job soon.
Paralegals do a lot more than rote tasks. That is a decent paying career job like many that are being automated or downgraded.

A cashier goes to community college for accounting and still gets screwed, ends up back cashiering until that becomes automated.
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Old 09-10-2018, 06:55 AM
 
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Successfully doing what exactly.
The richest of the rich relative in our family is only so due to insider trading.
I didn't realize ...always thought and expressed it as " falling ass backward" into money. " lucked out", " hard worker, good job"...nope. Whatcha gonna do. That was 30 years ago, since passed away, But they had a rich 30 years didn they. Wise with their time? It all depends on your definition of " wise"... And I guess the American dream is based upon " who you know" not how hard you work. Enter Trump Russian Republicans.
Successfully doing what the other people in your family couldn't or didn't do.

It's never been just "how hard you work". If you work hard at a job that a million other people could do just as easily, then you're not worth much. It's supply and demand. If you develop a skill that is in demand, you will make good money.
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:06 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Not surprisingly, people who make less than $15 per hour are disproportionately latino and black.

I would also bet that whites who make less than $15 per hour live mostly in lower COL areas away from the coasts or other high COL cities.
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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So why did half the country vote for a billionaire who is catering to the rich (and his own family) with tax cuts?

Because they still vote their hopes over their realities.
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Same old story, the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer, except that we are
practically back to a Caste system society now.
It is a tale of epic sadness that some people could work full time jobs and still struggle to feed their families and sometimes still end up homeless.
America should be better than this.
It seems like some people feel the need to keep moving the goal posts, so that they can maintain the narrative of the USA being a failed, miserable place to live in.

If you put on your. "life is gloomy and depressing" glasses, I'm sure we will always be able to find places where we still need improvement. Utopia is an illusion, there will always be people who just can't make it on their own.

Our unemployment rates are the lowest on record, job satisfaction is at a 15 year high, positive outlook for the future are at a 12 year high, and polls showing more Americans believe the country is on the right path, and business and consumer confidence are also at a high, not seen in over a decade.

No matter what improvements we make as a people, the gloom-and-doomers will always complain that Americans are racists, bigots, misogynists, with too many people living in poverty and despair.

The writer at Forbes expects the economy to recover in some type of egalitarian rate, where every person, every business, and every sector of society all rise in perfect unison, and if they don't..... it's news worthy to point it out, and despair.
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:34 AM
 
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It seems like some people feel the need to keep moving the goal posts, so that they can maintain the narrative of the USA being a failed, miserable place to live in.

If you put on your. "life is gloomy and depressing" glasses, I'm sure we will always be able to find places where we still need improvement. Utopia is an illusion, there will always be people who just can't make it on their own.

Our unemployment rates are the lowest on record, job satisfaction is at a 15 year high, positive outlook for the future are at a 12 year high, and polls showing more Americans believe the country is on the right path, and business and consumer confidence are also at a high, not seen in over a decade.

No matter what improvements we make as a people, the gloom-and-doomers will always complain that Americans are racists, bigots, misogynists, with too many people living in poverty and despair.

The writer at Forbes expects the economy to recover in some type on egalitarian rate, where every person, every business, and every sector of society all rise in perfect unison, and if they don't..... it's news worthy to point it out, and despair.
You still havent addressed that median wages have stagnated for several decades and the people born disabled only get $700 a month to survive on. These are real numbers, real brutal facts that really cut to the core of what the reality is for the average American. And nothing is being done to change this. Wages are still stagnating and the disabled are falling further behind.
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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yet obama is taking credit for it.





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Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady View Post
Same old story, the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer, except that we are
practically back to a Caste system society now.
It is a tale of epic sadness that some people could work full time jobs and still struggle to feed their families and sometimes still end up homeless.
America should be better than this.
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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For those willing to get off their asses and do something about their problems instead of bitching and complaining all the time waiting for the govt.





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You say the system is successful. The question is "For who?"
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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So why did half the country vote for a billionaire who is catering to the rich (and his own family) with tax cuts? Half the country is convinced the poorest people are responsible for their financial problems, not the rich. When will someone come out with a slogan like "It's not socialism, it's democracy... a government of the people, by the people and for the people, not for the millionaires and billionaires"?
You must not be paying attention. That's Bernie Sander's line (although he seems to be leaving 'millionaire' off his spoutings since he himself is one).
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