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"The 9/11 death and injury toll is still rising as this week’s 14th anniversary of the terrorist attacks approaches.
Nearly 21,000 people have filed eligibility claims with the September 11th Victims Compensation Fund as of Sept. 6, up more than 4,000 from this time last year, according to updated data that fund officials released Wednesday.
More than 9,000 claimants have been determined eligible for compensation of medical bills and other expenses, and more than 6,000 have received compensation decisions."
The official death toll from 9/11 is 2,725 people, the only people who have been added were investigated and those few people died from things directly related to the events that day. None of the deaths of people who worked the recovery effort or just happened to be in the area and died of cancer were added to the death toll.
And just how, exactly, do you know what you are claiming to be true? Have you seen any report categorizing the dates and causes of death? What the actual numbers may be or proof "enemies of Trump" are trying to inflate these numbers unfairly? If not 3,000, what is the number far as YOU are concerned?
What strikes me most of all when I read many of these comments either condemning Trump or defending him is clear partisanship bias, blindness. Rather than consider the numbers as reported, along with the source and ongoing efforts to get the numbers right, we decide what to believe based on our political bias.
Trump is a chump either way if you ask me, not because I was never a supporter and never will be, but because of what the man says and does, and all the lies, almost daily, coming right out of his own mouth. I've commented about this before, also today in another thread, and again I've got that typical feeling it's past time not to waste any more time this morning. No one changes their mind about anything anyway, regardless the facts, reason, logic, or lies...
“I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack,” -- Trump
I know for a fact that the official death toll was in the 60s for months after the storm passed and all of a sudden it was inflated to thousands with no data to back up the claim. That ~3000 person claimed death toll was instantly used to attack the President, FEMA and the GOP by the left and it continues today. It's never been proven and it doesn't make sense. Your personal feels about Trump are meaningless, the death toll math just doesn't add up.
Exactly. How many police and fireman died of health complications AFTER 9/11? Their deaths have not been added to the body count that I am aware of. If you died in a car crash 30 miles away from downtown NY on 9/11/2001, your death was not added to the body count. The media is trying to take EVERY death in PR regardless of the cause as part of the storm.
Funny you mention that. I've heard consistent stories about the heros of 9/11 having physical and mental health problems, and just this week (it's 9/11, so the topic is being discussed) I heard a report specifically about how the death toll, post event, is actually approaching the toll of the day of.
(There are many many many stories, I just picked the first one.)
Trump's claim that "anyone who died was just added to the numbers" is not only a lie, it is so incomprehensible that anyone, much less a POTUS, would put so little value on human life as to try to use their death to push a lie. He has no soul.
I know you will blindly believe him, but if you really cared about the truth, you would research it, and would find out that the numbers reported are sound, and corroborated. Believe your anti-American, racist Trump if it makes you feel better. It does not change reality though.
Also, the undistributed bottles of water: Maybe a failure on the ground, but he's the Commader in Chief. It's up to him to make sure stuff gets done. If someone else failed, and he's at the top of the chain of command, then he failed. That's how it works. Mistakes like that are very unfortunate, but understandable. That he wants to deny culpability is not.
Why does Trump make EVERYTHING about himself? He has no idea what compassion is. Apparently he thinks that tweeting about how great he is solves every problem. I'm sure that the people of Puerto Rico who went without water for weeks and without electricity for months definitely feel "loved" by the POTUS. Get real and pass the paper towels.
ME, ME, ME!! Nearly 3,000 Americans are dead, but the ONLY thing Trump can talk about is ME, ME, ME!
Because narcissists are incapable of thinking of or caring about anyone else.
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) on Thursday slammed President Trump over his tweet claiming that statistics showing that nearly 3,000 were killed in Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria were falsely inflated.
Ros-Lehtinen told reporters that Trump has a “warped mind that would turn this statistic into fake news” about himself.
“It might be a new low,” she said. “Boy, that’s saying something … How could you be so self-centered and try to distort the truth so much?”
... “3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico,” Trump tweeted. “When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000.”
“This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico,” he continued. “If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!”
Why does Trump make EVERYTHING about himself? He has no idea what compassion is. Apparently he thinks that tweeting about how great he is solves every problem. I'm sure that the people of Puerto Rico who went without water for weeks and without electricity for months definitely feel "loved" by the POTUS. Get real and pass the paper towels.
Little by little, piece by piece...republicans are realizing Crooked Trump is despicable!
What utter nonsense to argue about this. Did 3,000 people die from the hurricane? Hard to say. But know whats NOT hard to say? That the number is in the thousands. Whether its 2,001 or 3,000 is pretty irrelevant once you get those sort of numbers. Trying to claim it was only 64 is utterly contemptible though. WAY too many people on the ground there know better. The original numbers were met with disbelief because folks saw more dead then that. WAY more.
Trumps treatment of American citizens, and his urge to blame instead of fix things shows his poor leadership.
What utter nonsense to argue about this. Did 3,000 people die from the hurricane? Hard to say. But know whats NOT hard to say? That the number is in the thousands. Whether its 2,001 or 3,000 is pretty irrelevant once you get those sort of numbers. Trying to claim it was only 64 is utterly contemptible though. WAY too many people on the ground there know better. The original numbers were met with disbelief because folks saw more dead then that. WAY more.
Trumps treatment of American citizens, and his urge to blame instead of fix things shows his poor leadership.
Death toll for over a year was about 64. then via a hierarchical coding edit, subsequent deaths long after the hurricane past, were inflated to 3k.
Standard methodology was used to determine the 64 deaths. The 3k deaths were based on creative statistics and coding changes.
Pr is in the middle of the atlantic ocean. Pr is mismanaged. PR was a wreck as far as infrastructure and communications. FEMA is not there to build nations. It is there to help and so it did. PR needs to take responsibility.
leftists similarly attacked bush after katrina.
Even the PR gov complimented Trump. now he has backed off a bit for political advantage.
It is common for coding changes or new technology to reveal incidents that were not counted and as such can create epidemics without a single case being reported. Most deaths from radon, 2nd hand ciggy smoke, etc are statistical projections.
Take any situation and you can use stats and coding to generate a pandemic wher there is none except on paper.
let's just say that anyone who dies in puerto rico from the time the hurricane hit until the world ends, did so due to hurricane maria and therefore it's trump's fault.
And just how, exactly, do you know what you are claiming to be true? Have you seen any report categorizing the dates and causes of death? What the actual numbers may be or proof "enemies of Trump" are trying to inflate these numbers unfairly? If not 3,000, what is the number far as YOU are concerned?
What strikes me most of all when I read many of these comments either condemning Trump or defending him is clear partisanship bias, blindness. Rather than consider the numbers as reported, along with the source and ongoing efforts to get the numbers right, we decide what to believe based on our political bias.
Trump is a chump either way if you ask me, not because I was never a supporter and never will be, but because of what the man says and does, and all the lies, almost daily, coming right out of his own mouth. I've commented about this before, also today in another thread, and again I've got that typical feeling it's past time not to waste any more time this morning. No one changes their mind about anything anyway, regardless the facts, reason, logic, or lies...
“I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack,” -- Trump
I don't believe that number either. The vast majority of deaths during hurricanes are caused by drowning. No other factor even comes close. Given the fact that a drowning is a sudden and violent event involving the disappearance and/or the discovery of a drowned loved one, the number of fatalities would be known (plus or minus a few dozen) within several weeks after the storm passes. The estimated number of fatalities that we were provided with in this time frame for Maria was well below 100, yet here we are about a year later and suddenly it's 30 times that initial estimate. This is akin to the official death toll of Katrina being 1800 only to have be upped a year later to 54,000.
Trump is right, the death toll attributed to the hurricane have been outrageously inflated to make things appear a lot worse than they truly are. Anyone who died following the storm was instantly added to the storm death toll regardless of cause of death, it's easy to do and hard to prove otherwise.
Trump is tone deaf. Period. Could he at least have expressed sorrow or sympathy about the loss of life? No. Because he is bereft of any of those types of emotions. If it's not about him, it doesn't matter. It's. Always. About. Him.
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