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I agree. But Catgirl and other liberals often say that whites at a national or racial level should not have this "tribal-pride" you mention. I'm of the belief they need more than they current have of it not less.
I don't agree that gratitude is solely a liberal sentiment. At least, I hope not!
My friends are all different. Different ethnic and national backgrounds, different religions, different interests and tastes, different lifestyles, different world views.
"Pride" in this context means a feeling of fealty and adherence to a particular set of people; one's blood-relations are a subset of that set, but the set itself is far larger; lacking a better term, we can call it a "tribe". In other words, "pride" is a tribal feeling, where members of the tribe have a mutual adherence, neighborliness, trust. Those external to the tribe could perhaps still be decent people, honorable people, wise and accomplished people... but they're not members of the tribe, and therefore don't enjoy the immediate and visceral rapport of tribe-membership.
Such tribal-pride is, I think, humanly inevitable. The question becomes, "what in the modern world legitimately constitutes a tribe"? Is it a nation? A state? A race? Thus, perhaps, the premise of this thread.
I am reminded of Kurt Vonnegut's "Cat's Cradle", and his concepts of "karass" and its opposite, "granfalloon".
I think a tribal mentality is about race and/or ethnicity. Nationalism isn't tribalism as it encompasses all the citizens of a given country regardless of the above. I abhor tribalism because it usually means putting one's tribe above all others and borders on racism. There are some groups within our country that will use the term "my people" and some who's actions even though they don't use those words prove that they only consider those of their race/ethnic group to be their people.
On the other hand, every country's identifying culture and demographics should have the right to be preserved and not be called racist for objecting to a foreign invasion by massive immigration either legally or illegally which threatens it.
I suppose "my people" would be reasonably educated people who strive to be smarter, broader, more cultured, and more "enlightened" - by which I suppose I mean liberal in the broadest sense of implying someone generous, compassionate, and forward-thinking.
Pride in or tribalism about things no one has control over like nationality, race, etc is for pathetic losers that don't have any actual accomplishments of their own to be proud of. Instead they gotta piggyback their self worth onto an external group.
But this matters in politics. For example, an American whose loyalty is to the American people would oppose illegal immigration and the Dream Act, while a Mexican American who sees himself as Mexican would support chain migration, open borders, etc because that would be in the best interests of "his people."
The fact is that because I consider Americans to be my people (and not foreign nationals), as sorry as I may feel for the illegal families at the border, I don't want them in because we need to look out for our own interests first. We need to do what's best for the American people.
Something that's very telling too.....my father was born in China but immigrated LEGALLY over 30 years ago to the US. He is a naturalized citizen and now considers the U.S. to be his people now over China and wants the U.S. to be stronger than China and he's a very strong Trump supporter who wants us to not back down in any trade war with China and wants America to be the dominant power in any trade relationship.
Contrast this to the second generation Mexican Americans who still consider themselves Mexican first and believe in things like DACA, open borders, etc that benefit their people over the AMerican people.
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