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Neither party believes that this will put much of a dent in illegal immigration, I don't think Trump actually believes this is a solution either. It was a simple election message to deliver to his base, if he was serious he would have stepped up. This is a band aide, the real solution involves addressing the violence and economic problems that are driving these people to the US, but no one wants to address complicated solutions.
Not true! They know it will help a lot as where the good walls are in place already they have been very effective. They have an agenda and I already explained what it is.
Trump did step up several times. Have you people been living in a cave? With this latest budget he may have lost a little battle for time being but his eye is still on the war.
Trump also had e-verify in his budget and as usual the Democrats probably wouldn't pass it so yes he is addressing why many of these people come here but not all are coming for that reason either.
WTH are you talking about? Trump has been fighting tooth and nail to get the wall funded. Have you been living in a cave?
No, he's posturing. He's not fighting tooth and nail for anything except himself. He's golfing more than he's governing. The only thing he's done so far is give himself and his big business cronies billions in tax breaks.
Trump Signs Another Big Spending Bill With No Money For His Wall
WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump quietly signed legislation on Friday that spends $853 billion on the Department of Defense and other federal agencies and zero dollars on his long-promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
The signature averts a partial government shutdown that would have taken place at midnight Monday had Trump vetoed the measure, as he has threatened to do for months if the Republican-led Congress failed to provide wall money.
“This shows the president to be a total wuss on the budget,” said Stan Collender, a longtime former staffer for both House and Senate budget committees.
In campaign rallies, Trump had repeatedly threatened to force a government shutdown if he did not get at least several billion dollars to start building a wall. On Sept. 20, two days after the Senate approved the latest spending package with a 93-7 vote, Trump wrote on Twitter: “I want to know, where is the money for Border Security and the WALL in this ridiculous Spending Bill, and where will it come from after the Midterms? Dems are obstructing Law Enforcement and Border Security. REPUBLICANS MUST FINALLY GET TOUGH!”
“This is the opposite of Teddy Roosevelt. Speak loudly and carry a small stick,” Collender laughed, adding that in future negotiations, congressional leaders will remember Trump’s failure to follow through on this threat. “The Hill doesn’t forget. They’re going to discount everything he says.”
Some of Trump’s supporters and informal advisers had been pushing him to veto the spending bill and force Congress to provide wall funding. They feared that his most enthusiastic supporters will sit out the midterm elections if they feel Trump has abandoned his first and most frequently repeated campaign promise.
“President Trump has made it clear he will not use his veto power to get his border wall,” said William Gheen, head of the hard-line group Americans for Legal Immigration. “He ramped up his rhetoric that he would veto spending bills that didn’t fund the wall, and here he is signing it.”
Trump signed the measure out of sight of the media. It was announced hours later in a press release that merely restates the bill’s dry, legislative summary. The bill provides a full year’s funding for the departments of Defense, Education, Labor and Health and Human Services, as well as funding through Dec. 7 for agencies not covered by this legislation or by a previous spending bill.
Trump promised from the day he began his campaign in June 2015 that he would build a “great wall” to end illegal immigration from Mexico.
“I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively,” Trump said in his Trump Tower announcement. “I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”
So what happened Republicans? You control both chambers of Congress yet you won't give him his wall.
Why not? Is it because he lied about Mexico paying for it?
What happened is that November is getting closer by the minute, and the majority of Americans still think the wall is a boondoggle.
No, he's posturing. He's not fighting tooth and nail for anything except himself. He's golfing more than he's governing. The only thing he's done so far is give himself and his big business cronies billions in tax breaks.
Utter leftist nonsense! He's accomplished a lot since he's been in office to help regular Americans and your biased opinion means nothing. He continues to fight for the wall and e-verify.
I find it hilarious that OldGlory absolutely refuses to address how Trump lied right to his cult's faces a few days ago, claiming he wouldn't sign the bill without wall funding, and then went ahead and did exactly that a few days later.
He continues to gloss right over those facts as if they never happened. It takes a special kind of denial to be a cultist.
Exactly. Trump has extremely obedient supporters so he doesnt need to please them at all. They'll find excuses for him anyway.
Trump Signs Another Big Spending Bill With No Money For His Wall
WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump quietly signed legislation on Friday that spends $853 billion on the Department of Defense and other federal agencies and zero dollars on his long-promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
The signature averts a partial government shutdown that would have taken place at midnight Monday had Trump vetoed the measure, as he has threatened to do for months if the Republican-led Congress failed to provide wall money.
“This shows the president to be a total wuss on the budget,” said Stan Collender, a longtime former staffer for both House and Senate budget committees.
In campaign rallies, Trump had repeatedly threatened to force a government shutdown if he did not get at least several billion dollars to start building a wall. On Sept. 20, two days after the Senate approved the latest spending package with a 93-7 vote, Trump wrote on Twitter: “I want to know, where is the money for Border Security and the WALL in this ridiculous Spending Bill, and where will it come from after the Midterms? Dems are obstructing Law Enforcement and Border Security. REPUBLICANS MUST FINALLY GET TOUGH!”
“This is the opposite of Teddy Roosevelt. Speak loudly and carry a small stick,” Collender laughed, adding that in future negotiations, congressional leaders will remember Trump’s failure to follow through on this threat. “The Hill doesn’t forget. They’re going to discount everything he says.”
Some of Trump’s supporters and informal advisers had been pushing him to veto the spending bill and force Congress to provide wall funding. They feared that his most enthusiastic supporters will sit out the midterm elections if they feel Trump has abandoned his first and most frequently repeated campaign promise.
“President Trump has made it clear he will not use his veto power to get his border wall,” said William Gheen, head of the hard-line group Americans for Legal Immigration. “He ramped up his rhetoric that he would veto spending bills that didn’t fund the wall, and here he is signing it.”
Trump signed the measure out of sight of the media. It was announced hours later in a press release that merely restates the bill’s dry, legislative summary. The bill provides a full year’s funding for the departments of Defense, Education, Labor and Health and Human Services, as well as funding through Dec. 7 for agencies not covered by this legislation or by a previous spending bill.
Trump promised from the day he began his campaign in June 2015 that he would build a “great wall” to end illegal immigration from Mexico.
“I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively,” Trump said in his Trump Tower announcement. “I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”
So what happened Republicans? You control both chambers of Congress yet you won't give him his wall.
Why not? Is it because he lied about Mexico paying for it?
1. its not really a """big""" spending bill, its a bill to keep the government working
2. he has said it doesn't have to be a wall, but we NEED to secure our borders
3. if you vistit areas like Ep paso texas, walls/fences are being re-enforced....
4. why wont the liberals keep their words...
In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’
Just because someone changes their mind (and probably with good reason) but chooses to fight another day instead does not make them a liar, for God's sake! It takes a special kind of stupid not to understand that. How can you lefties continue to deny that he has been fighting for the wall since day one? He's even had prototypes built and walls are being reinforced as we speak. There's only so much he can do without congress' support. Good Lord, get over your rampant TDS already! We get it! You don't want the flow of illegal aliens to stop and don't want the wall built anyway. Why don't you just admit your true agendas and be done with it?
Just because someone changes their mind (and probably with good reason) but chooses to fight another day instead does not make them a liar, for God's sake! It takes a special kind of stupid not to understand that. How can you lefties continue to deny that he has been fighting for the wall since day one? He's even had prototypes built and walls are being reinforced as we speak. There's only so much he can do without congress' support. Good Lord, get over your rampant TDS already! We get it! You don't want the flow of illegal aliens to stop and don't want the wall built anyway. Why don't you just admit your true agendas and be done with it?
Trump was against a wall when Buchanan was running for POTUS. When Trump decided to run, he took Pat's whole platform.
1. its not really a """big""" spending bill, its a bill to keep the government working
2. he has said it doesn't have to be a wall, but we NEED to secure our borders
3. if you vistit areas like Ep paso texas, walls/fences are being re-enforced....
4. why wont the liberals keep their words...
In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’
And why didn't the bi-partisan congress that passed the Secure Fence Act in 2006 follow through with the funding for it? Here's an interesting link about it.
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