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Old 10-01-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Originally Posted by Motion View Post
Do you consider this white guy to be black.
YES. Literally any white guy can be considered black.

In the age where men self-identify as women, you would have to be an idiot to not let white people self-identify as black people and vice versa .

I self-identify as a rich oil Arabian.
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Old 10-01-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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He can’t self identify as black.
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Wrong. White guilt liberals do it all the time.
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Old 10-01-2018, 01:03 PM
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Wrong. White guilt liberals do it all the time.
Would you view this guy as "black"? Knowing that he has lived his whole life as a "white" guy and recently discovered he carried 4% sub-Saharan African DNA and wants to use this ethnicity estimate for economic gain.


Can anyone be a member of any race or ethnic group they chose? Sorry no they can't I don't even consider people that marry into my family of different ethnicities(even if they carry a tiny amount of DNA) as being one of us these folks have no connection to the culture or a shared history or values. I can love them and accept them but they are not the same. Not better or worse just different even if they carry a small amount of the same heritage. I'm not black so perhaps Black Americans in general have a much different take.
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Old 10-01-2018, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What a dope. He's lived his entire life - all 55 years as a white man. He's encountered little to no discrimination based on the color of his skin. But because some paper says he's 4% black he's going to cash in on programs intended for those who do face discrimination.

I'm embarrassed for him.
I agree it is a rip-off of a policy intended to help those facing discrimination. The problem is, he is vaguely correct. In the US, the 'one drop rule' has been used for decades, but maybe it is time to redefine a concept from the racist past. It is case of white racism coming back to bite people in the butt. Its use may be meaningless now, but there is a history there.

"...The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States asserting that any person with even one ancestor of sub-Saharan African ancestry ("one drop" of black blood) is considered black (Negro in historical terms), its implications of racial purity being that anyone unable to pass for white in the context of the US racial hierarchy is assigned the lower status of being non-white or colored..."

"...In the U.S., the concept of the one-drop rule has been chiefly applied by white Americans to those of sub-Saharan black African ancestry in the 20th century, when they were trying to maintain white supremacy. The poet Langston Hughes wrote in his 1940 memoir:

You see, unfortunately, I am not black. There are lots of different kinds of blood in our family. But here in the United States, the word 'Negro' is used to mean anyone who has any Negro blood at all in his veins. In Africa, the word is more pure. It means all Negro, therefore black. I am brown.
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Old 10-01-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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#1 Why do you deny him the right to self-identify as he pleases? He is in fact part black. I am fine with you self-identifying as white, especially as you are part white.

#2 Asians have an advantage over whites in this country...they must, because they have a longer lifespan, higher median income adjusting for age, less unemployment, more likely to become a manager,
less likely to commit a crime, higher test scores, etc...

Let's break down Asian privilege first, because they are on top, then we will tear whites down in a sprint to the bottom!

#3 What about black privilege in sports? Let's have the NFL count scores from blacks as half of what they are worth and Asians double to end this privilege.

The Detroit Lions are down by 10, so all their black WRs are coming off the field with 1 play left in the game. The Asian WRs are on the field...Stafford throws...touchdown Detroit Lions...the Lions win! Wait, their opponent is throwing a red flag challenging the DNA of the Lions WR. Was he Asian enough.

#4 You've talked to every white bum in America and none of them said that they would trade places with a rich black person?

Wait a minute, are you just projecting your own racism out on to others or are you Miss Cleo reading people's minds again with your superior intellect?
I’m not part white and no one cares what you’re fine with. What you say doesn’t matter.

You can’t be white and identify as black because you’re not black and we won’t accept you as black. Our club is exclusive and we don’t take converts.

The end.
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Old 10-01-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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When it was a disadvantage to be black/minority, nobody wanted to be black. People were passing for white. If this was the 50s and he found out he was part black, he would've kept that to himself.

Now that being a minority is a protected status with benefits, everybody wants to be a minority. They have even invented minority groups that didn't exist before ("Hispanics/Latinos"). There was even a notion to make middle easterners into a minority group.

It's all fake now. Get rid of the whole system.
This “protected status with benefits” thing that you’re complaining about is HIGHLY exaggerated and highly overrated.


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of course he can.
Nah.
if this kid could do it anyone can.
No, really...he can’t.
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Old 10-01-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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if that dumbass Rachel Dolezal can pull it off why not this character??? Hit up the tanning salon like ol' Rachel and you can claim anything, apparently.
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Old 10-01-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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I’m not part white and no one cares what you’re fine with. What you say doesn’t matter.

You can’t be white and identify as black because you’re not black and we won’t accept you as black. Our club is exclusive and we don’t take converts.

The end.
You are not a recent immigrant, you are part white.

This guy is part black.

You can't speak for all blacks and you can't speak for all white bums.

What percentage of African DNA does one need before your prejudice stops and you accept someone as black?
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Old 10-01-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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That is true.

Guy I worked with was born in New York from parents who came over from Madrid. He checked the box on a law school application and justified it by pointing out the dictionary definition of Hispanic.

Never mind the guy looked like Armand Assante, but he had never encountered any discrimination in his life.

Favoring Hispanics amounts to two-fold stupidity. You are trying to make amends to a group that was enslaved and later marginalized (Hispanics who are black or Mestizo) as well as the group who actually did it (Hispanics of European origin). And most of which did not happen in the US
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Exactly. Hispanics should have to pick a race or mixed race for the purposes of affirmative action, and since whatever Indian mix they have is not recognized membership of a US Indian tribe, no affirmative action. Of course that won't stop liberals for giving them an advantage. How did Fauxcahantas get an advantage when no US tribe recognizes her having any ancestry?
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Wow

That is an amazing statement considering the very program you say is designed "for those who face discrimination" (presumably perpetual and ever lasting), does in and of itself discriminate.

There is no way around it, yet somehow you and people who think like you seem to have a blind spot to this fact.

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I responded given the current laws which were written to help people who face discrimination.

That doesn't mean I agree with all those laws (I agree with some), and I state my position on this later in the thread.

So let's not pretend you know how I think.
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