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I can agree with that in regard to 9/11 as it precipitated out of 1990s policing the world in the middle east. But we could've and should've had closed borders to these individuals, and open borders off and on goes back to the times when America acted more isolations such as before the early 1900s.
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Originally Posted by mtl1
Bomb/invade the world invite the world two sides of the globalist coin.
You can invade and bomb other countries or not, just don't have open borders because the result is the same.
While I hate the military, and I hate interventionism, and I hate globalism, and I hate mass-immigration; I am still a realist at heart, and a pragmatist.
The problem in the world is a problem of power. The whole world has always been a battleground of various powers. And each of those powers needs to become as powerful as possible, mostly just to protect itself from the other powers.
The entire history of the world has been that of hegemony. One of my favorite quotes from the father of Morning Joe's Mika Brzezinski.
"To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." - Zbigniew Brzezinski
It is a nice to think if we can just sit in our borders and trade with the world, we would be safe, forever. The reality isn't so simple, which is why America has never done that.
When America was established, it was in the age of European domination of the entire world. The founding fathers played the rivalries and jealousies of the French, English, and Spanish against each other in order to secure our independence. And while America technically played an act of neutrality, the "Monroe Doctrine" had been going on practically since the beginning. Which was a scheme to remove European hegemony from the Western Hemisphere entirely and replace it with American hegemony(you know, United Fruit company, Panama canal, etc).
We would support and arm rebel factions in Latin-America to overthrow dislodge the European powers, and we would support various secessionist movements in territories that interested us. From Texas to Panama.
The United States has played the game of empire since the very beginning. And had we not, what would the world look like?
What if we had stayed in our borders while the Soviet Union was on the march? What kind of allies would we be, if we refused to let any foreigner in our country? And how could our empire even be maintained, if not for the worldwide dependency on the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency?
I find it a bit ironic that so many Americans don't seem to realize that what is often called "globalism", was created by America. It was the outcome of things like the Bretton Woods agreement, and the carving-up the world between America and the Soviet Union. And it is America who maintains the world order, and the global system of trade. It is the US Navy that protects shipping lanes, and makes sure no one does anything which could destabilize world markets(especially energy). It is America who runs and protects the global financial machine. It is Americans who not only bailed out our banks, but the banks of Europe and elsewhere.
If America pulls back, the vacuum of power would be filled by someone. Whether it be Russia, or China, or who knows? And in the short-term, it would lead to global chaos. Stock markets across the world would crash. Everything would be worthless. Unemployment would skyrocket, and insecurity would spike. Leading almost-invariably to authoritarian regimes, if not war.
There isn't a lot America can do. If we give up our empire, we lose. And if we keep our empire, we lose.
As Pat Buchanan said in 2002, "Terrorism is the price of empire".
Remember they slid that into place because after September 11th, anyone that looked middle eastern or Muslim was deemed a terrorist? So the whole country united against them, and Everyone was OK with it, because...well same as now.....ignorance is bliss. Just like when people said "hey ill take off my shoes at the airport to be safe from terrr-rrists". They didnt care to look into what the law really was, they , just like now, said "I dont care about anything except get rid of the Indian looking people!"
The ones that enacted this should have been thrown in prison for treason.
While I hate the military, and I hate interventionism, and I hate globalism, and I hate mass-immigration; I am still a realist at heart, and a pragmatist.
The problem in the world is a problem of power. The whole world has always been a battleground of various powers. And each of those powers needs to become as powerful as possible, mostly just to protect itself from the other powers.
It is a good post you made, but the problem is that the beneficiaries are no longer the majority of Americans since the greed of the elite has spelled their doom. I will not be carrying water for the wealthy elite in this country since their voracious appetite and quest for power has no ends and that will not stop until this country is destroyed.
They control Washington DC with their Corporate and Banking Lobbyists. Small Business and Pro Capitalists have no chance against them.
Tell the people working paycheck to paycheck or the increasing homeless or the ones bankrupt from medical bills that they should be grateful for this so that cockroaches in the finance sector can make bank.
I hope to see their lives utterly destroyed in my lifetime. They care exactly ONE BIG 0 about people in this country and I care 0 about them.
While I hate the military, and I hate interventionism, and I hate globalism, and I hate mass-immigration; I am still a realist at heart, and a pragmatist.
The problem in the world is a problem of power. The whole world has always been a battleground of various powers. And each of those powers needs to become as powerful as possible, mostly just to protect itself from the other powers.
The entire history of the world has been that of hegemony. One of my favorite quotes from the father of Morning Joe's Mika Brzezinski.
"To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." - Zbigniew Brzezinski
It is a nice to think if we can just sit in our borders and trade with the world, we would be safe, forever. The reality isn't so simple, which is why America has never done that.
When America was established, it was in the age of European domination of the entire world. The founding fathers played the rivalries and jealousies of the French, English, and Spanish against each other in order to secure our independence. And while America technically played an act of neutrality, the "Monroe Doctrine" had been going on practically since the beginning. Which was a scheme to remove European hegemony from the Western Hemisphere entirely and replace it with American hegemony(you know, United Fruit company, Panama canal, etc).
We would support and arm rebel factions in Latin-America to overthrow dislodge the European powers, and we would support various secessionist movements in territories that interested us. From Texas to Panama.
The United States has played the game of empire since the very beginning. And had we not, what would the world look like?
What if we had stayed in our borders while the Soviet Union was on the march? What kind of allies would we be, if we refused to let any foreigner in our country? And how could our empire even be maintained, if not for the worldwide dependency on the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency?
I find it a bit ironic that so many Americans don't seem to realize that what is often called "globalism", was created by America. It was the outcome of things like the Bretton Woods agreement, and the carving-up the world between America and the Soviet Union. And it is America who maintains the world order, and the global system of trade. It is the US Navy that protects shipping lanes, and makes sure no one does anything which could destabilize world markets(especially energy). It is America who runs and protects the global financial machine. It is Americans who not only bailed out our banks, but the banks of Europe and elsewhere.
If America pulls back, the vacuum of power would be filled by someone. Whether it be Russia, or China, or who knows? And in the short-term, it would lead to global chaos. Stock markets across the world would crash. Everything would be worthless. Unemployment would skyrocket, and insecurity would spike. Leading almost-invariably to authoritarian regimes, if not war.
There isn't a lot America can do. If we give up our empire, we lose. And if we keep our empire, we lose.
As Pat Buchanan said in 2002, "Terrorism is the price of empire".
All that might be true. All I'm saying is America was doing a lot better after the immigration laws after 1921 and when we didn't purposely outsource industry. Most of the things I'm opposed to were purposely and I'd argue foolishly laid in place in the 1960s. America opened its borders to people and trade from all these countries who were not doing the same, and they benefited and the US did not.
If we wouldn't let in so many suspect foreigners into the country, there would be no justifiable need for the Patriot Act. Open borders was the "first sin".
Invading and occupying sovereign nations in order to expand our empire and murdering innocents along the way was the first sin. And still is.
No. Terrorism has existed since forever. Americans lost our nerve after 9/11. We have become sheep to the political whims of fear induced politics. Giving up our rights and living scared is exactly what terrorists want us to do.
How do you make a terrorist? Take an innocent person who has done you no harm and murder their entire family.
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