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Old 10-08-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: New Jersey (Europe Sep ‘19)
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Do you think liberals would have respected Christians and Christianity more if the religion and its adherents were beheading people or advocating such of, asking infidels (non-Christians) to convert, to die or to pay extra tax, throw gays off from roof top buildings, stone adulterous to death, demanding capital punishment for insulting Jesus/Christianity, forcing women to cover themselves, ban alcohol/gambling/prostitution, etc. in the 21st century?

Seeing off topics and anti-Christian bashing on this forum is really sickening. Liberals likes to take advantage. Wish we could have them live in an Islamic nation and then came back to truly appreciate Christian and Western values.

 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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Do you think liberals would have respected Christians and Christianity more if the religion and its adherents were beheading people or advocating such of, asking infidels (non-Christians) to convert, to die or to pay extra tax, throw gays off from roof top buildings, stone adulterous to death, demanding capital punishment for insulting Jesus/Christianity, forcing women to cover themselves, ban alcohol/gambling/prostitution, etc. in the 21st century?

Seeing off topics and anti-Christian bashing on this forum is really sickening. Liberals likes to take advantage. Wish we could have them live in an Islamic nation and then came back to truly appreciate Christian and Western values.
We live in a nation that is not religion based at all so get over it. And it was Christians that burnt people alive for being witches and beat Native American children for speaking their native tongue.
 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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That does not seem like a very Christian attitude to me. You have chosen a group of human beings to hate and then falsely assign attributes to them that justify your hatred. What would Jesus say?

Amazingly enough, I am both a Christian and a liberal. In fact, there are many Christian liberals. Isn't it about time that Christians come together as a group instead of splintering off into various hate factions?
 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Houston
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We live in a nation that is not religion based at all so get over it. And it was Christians that burnt people alive for being witches and beat Native American children for speaking their native tongue.
And that led the abolitionist movement and sparked the Enlightenment.
 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Do you think liberals would have respected Christians and Christianity more if the religion and its adherents were beheading people or advocating such of, asking infidels (non-Christians) to convert, to die or to pay extra tax, throw gays off from roof top buildings, stone adulterous to death, demanding capital punishment for insulting Jesus/Christianity, forcing women to cover themselves, ban alcohol/gambling/prostitution, etc. in the 21st century?

Seeing off topics and anti-Christian bashing on this forum is really sickening. Liberals likes to take advantage. Wish we could have them live in an Islamic nation and then came back to truly appreciate Christian and Western values.
What kind of "Christian values" does your boy Trump represent? Adultery, lying, greed, lust, gluttony, wrath, envy, pride, etc., etc.?
 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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I would respect Christians and Christianity more if they owned-up to the fact that, for many thousands of years, there was extreme violence and mass killings in the name of their religion. Christianity has a very dark past and modern Christians really like to dispel and justify this dark past when challenged. The crusades, slavery, colonialism, forced conversions, the witch trials/burnings ... all carried out in the name of and justified by Christianity. I think many people would be shocked to know that the violence seen in Muslim-majority nations today looks really similar to the violence seen in Christian-majority nations as recent as a few hundred years ago. They just haven't caught up to us. The only reason that

So, no. I won't ever come back to "appreciating" the values of a bastardized, modern faith-system that refuses to take responsibility for its own despicable past.
 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:47 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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And that led the abolitionist movement and sparked the Enlightenment.
It was the liberal Christians i.e. the ones modern evangelicals consider apostate that led the abolitionist movements and led the Enlightenment. Think denominations like the United Churches of Christ, the Methodists, the Episcopalians, the evangelical Lutheran church, etc. The ones that today are leading the Christian social justice movement and are despised by the Christian Right.

The great contributions by Christianity to human progress weren't brought to us by the Southern Baptists. Sorry.

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Old 10-08-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Do you think liberals would have respected Christians and Christianity more if the religion and its adherents were beheading people or advocating such of, asking infidels (non-Christians) to convert, to die or to pay extra tax, throw gays off from roof top buildings, stone adulterous to death, demanding capital punishment for insulting Jesus/Christianity, forcing women to cover themselves, ban alcohol/gambling/prostitution, etc. in the 21st century?

Seeing off topics and anti-Christian bashing on this forum is really sickening. Liberals likes to take advantage. Wish we could have them live in an Islamic nation and then came back to truly appreciate Christian and Western values.
People not believing that Christianity should be the state religion of the U.S. does not equal anti-Christian. Please learn the difference.
 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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Wish we could have them live in an Islamic nation and then came back to truly appreciate Christian and Western values.
Its both ironic and sad that the qualities of Western Values that make it truly unique are the qualities that proponents of "Western Values" loath.

Feminism
Gay Rights
Minority Rights
Ability to mock religion
Etc...
 
Old 10-08-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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When you are doing Satan’s work you will think it’s the right thing to do. It says right in the Bible, what is wrong becomes right and what was right becomes wrong.
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