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Old 10-19-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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So you want what? take the Royal King and Prince to a United Nation tribunal and force them out of power and who is going to replace them? Be careful what you wish for, none of our leaders have stood trial for the Iraq invasion debacle and a lot of people died because of it not just 1 dead Saudi.

That's EXACTLY what this is about. There was a civil war within the Saudi Royal Family a couple years ago & the moderates won, with the Osama Bin Laden/Al Queda/Wahhabists losing. That's who they want back in power. Why the left is so gung-ho to put that regime back into place & prop up Iran, I will let you figure out, but to answer your question, replacing the new more moderate govt is exactly what they want.
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Old 10-19-2018, 05:52 PM
 
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That's EXACTLY what this is about. There was a civil war within the Saudi Royal Family a couple years ago & the moderates won, with the Osama Bin Laden/Al Queda/Wahhabists losing. That's who they want back in power. Why the left is so gung-ho to put that regime back into place & prop up Iran, I will let you figure out, but to answer your question, replacing the new more moderate govt is exactly what they want.
Kidnaping , Murder, and " disappearing" your own Mother will never be moderate and will always be extreme.
Even to the new republican party in America until Trump offers an excuse. Then it becomes moderate.
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Old 10-19-2018, 05:53 PM
 
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That's EXACTLY what this is about. There was a civil war within the Saudi Royal Family a couple years ago & the moderates won, with the Osama Bin Laden/Al Queda/Wahhabists losing. That's who they want back in power. Why the left is so gung-ho to put that regime back into place & prop up Iran, I will let you figure out, but to answer your question, replacing the new more moderate govt is exactly what they want.
You keep making up these accusations about the left not liking moderate governments, and governments that do things like give women the right to drive. Thats UTTER garbage and you know it.

The left just thinks that when you kill a US Reporter there should be consequences. Trying to frame it s the left wanting the bin laden group in power is just utter nonsense. Do you have no shame at all?
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Old 10-19-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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So what do you want, to simply say " Oh, thank you for such a thorough , fast investigation, and congratulations on solving this murder so quickly !" How about us having some courage, for a change, and showing the Saudis we are not simply interested in the things they might buy from us, and we are above that ?


This is a disgrace ! The Saudis will march out people they say did this on their own, the King will watch them being chopped to pieces in front of him, and Trump will consider it a done deal !

We knew that Trump was never going to do a damn thing about this, they have already started to make negative comments about Khashoggi being not a good person, so what did we expect ?

C'mon man! Stop the partisan politics BS. No president whether democrat or republican would come down hard on the Saudis here and you know it!
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Old 10-19-2018, 06:35 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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So what do you want, to simply say " Oh, thank you for such a thorough , fast investigation, and congratulations on solving this murder so quickly !" How about us having some courage, for a change, and showing the Saudis we are not simply interested in the things they might buy from us, and we are above that ?


This is a disgrace ! The Saudis will march out people they say did this on their own, the King will watch them being chopped to pieces in front of him, and Trump will consider it a done deal !

We knew that Trump was never going to do a damn thing about this, they have already started to make negative comments about Khashoggi being not a good person, so what did we expect ?
Yep. There will be a quick show trial. Then some heads will roll (literally), Trump will say "See? The Saudis took care of it. Case closed." Then business as usual.
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Old 10-19-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Saudis just admitted he died inside - in a "fistfight".....

They still won't talk about his body because, of course, they are lying. No one who accidentally is killed in a fistfight is properly chopped up into little pieces and disposed of.

I find it very interesting that the "Party of Islamaphobes" seems to be pushing for doing little or nothing. We aren't talking some garden variety westernized Muslims here....we are talking THIS:

"At least 12 members of that team are connected to Saudi security services and several have links to Mohammed himself"

Direct descendants of the Great One. It's like you found Bin Ladens higher-ups and decided to do a lot of arms business with them.
I wonder if the Trump and Saudi apologists would have a problem if we ask the Saudis to reveal what they did with Khashoggi's body. And if there is anything left of his remains. And if there is will they turn the remains over to Khashoggi's family for a funeral and decent burial. If Trump has one ounce of decency in his body he will press this issue. I predict he will not.
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Old 10-19-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Oh stop the phony outrage. Thousands are dying in Yemen & Syria, you people couldn't care less. Saudi Arabia publicly beheaded dozens of people each year that Obama was in office, not a peep from you phonies. Your new found outrage is nothing more than a political ploy & anyone with a brain sees right through it.
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Old 10-19-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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So we are supposed to simply let the Sauds brutally murder a U.S. RESIDENT and do NOTHING?

Ken

Correct. Not our problem. Saudis acting like cavemen is nothing new.
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Old 10-19-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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"The press is the enemy of the american people"
-Donald Trump


This is the type of rhetoric that leads totalitarian regimes like Saudia Arabia to think that they can get away with murdering a journalist. Since the founding of the U.S., the free press has been one of the hallmarks of the american free voting republic. Now this President we have goes around calling them "fake news". This type of rhetoric is dangerous to our own free republic and also increases the risk of this type of thing happening.
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Old 10-19-2018, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Oh stop the phony outrage. Thousands are dying in Yemen & Syria, you people couldn't care less. Saudi Arabia publicly beheaded dozens of people each year that Obama was in office, not a peep from you phonies. Your new found outrage is nothing more than a political ploy & anyone with a brain sees right through it.
Nice deflection but it wont fly, the outrage is bipartisan Saudi Arabia has a rather large problem and this wont disappear with the usual excuses. This looks like an organized hit by the prince and no one is buying his fist fight gone bad excuse.
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