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Old 10-12-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Some truth to this but like anything else, it's never that simple. You are right in that the military industrial complex that emerged after WWII has driven much of the "ugliness". We are an arms peddler.

All governments everywhere in the world have some level of "ugliness" as you put it. It's hard to argue that the US is a standout. If you were to rank all the powerful nations of the world in terms of ugliness, who would be the "least ugly"?
The United States is significantly more destructive compared to other countries. Look at the number of countries we are bombing daily, it makes Russia look like peaceful hippies.

And more importantly our main concern should be the crimes of our own country, you clean up your own house first. If you want to stop terrorism, stop participating in it.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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More deflection, you suppose in your previous post that the current murder (Saudis routinely execute women and gays btw) makes support for Saudi Arabia different from past support.

This is a desperate attempt to differentiate Trump from other presidents being as you can’t accept Trump is just like our past presidents, our government has always been this ugly and horrible but you can’t bring yourself to admit that Trump is not an anomaly, he is more of the same. Obama, Clinton, all your favorite leaders all the same as Trump.

This is in no way worse than anything else the Saudis routinely do.
If it is routine, then let me ask you again: When was the last time they murdered and dismembered employees of US newspapers before?
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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The Clinton Foundation should return all Saudi donations in protest.

Yeah, that'll happen.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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If it is routine, then let me ask you again: When was the last time they murdered and dismembered employees of US newspapers before?
A.) he is not an employee

B.) how is that any worse than bombing a school bus full of children, killing dissidents, torturing rape victims (yes, seriously), killing gays, etc.

What moral rule do use to judge these crimes? Just because DC elites may have known him does not make the crime anymore Illegal under international law.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Trump made clear the US needs SA more than they need us.

So the US will continue to ignore atrocities and it’s business as usual.

When it comes to SA and Israel, not much diff between administrations over the past 70 years.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The Clinton Foundation should return all Saudi donations in protest.

Yeah, that'll happen.
Right after Ivanka rejects the $100 million pledge to an empowering women cause, made by SA and UAE.
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Old 10-12-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKGjOE_7bYI
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Old 10-12-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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You presented the picture of Trump with the Saudis as if it were the missing link in the thread when it was actually the topic of the thread. That is what I responded to.

The picture of trump was meant to complete the list of pictures of up to obama, it was not "the missing link in the thread".

I don't attack or criticize one president over another, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. Whoever happens to be the president follows orders from the same elite.
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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The left's blame and criticism of Trump will be unlimited on this issue as it always is on any issue.

More of he will be dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't.

The armchair President want-a-b will sit naked in the big boy chairs and pound out their wisdom on the keyboards between hits on the bong and trips to the refrigerator for a beer. When its all said and done we will wonder...………….why didn't we elect them instead. Then Trumps words of wisdom will ring clear in our memories. "Stupid question" , he said to a reporter. The sun sinks slowly in the west and soon another day will dawn and repeat it all over again.

Last edited by phma; 10-12-2018 at 01:01 PM..
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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I guess myself along with millions of other Deplorables have a front row seat to the circus and we think it is great.
You think it's great that a US "ally" will kill a journalist in the supposed safe haven of a Consular office in the country of another ally?
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