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Old 10-16-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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As for her mother looking Indian from a distant ancestor from a 100 years ago
Warren did not say her mother "looked" Cherokee..

...Warren said her mother "was" Cherokee

and Warren went on to say her parents were oppressed because her mother 'was' Cherokee

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She lied.....she claimed her mother was Cherokee....and her parents were oppressed because her mother was Cherokee...

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Old 10-16-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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An excellent article from a pro-Warren author.

Elizabeth Warren’s Native Ancestry Response Is A Complete Disaster

Warren did do something wrong here: she is not a Native American, but she identified herself as a “Native American” in the The Association of American Law Schools Directory of law professors between 1986 and 1995, and Harvard recorded her as Native American as late as 2004. At the University of Pennsylvania, she identified herself as a racial minority. She was described in the Fordham Law Review in 1997 as Harvard Law School’s first “woman of color.” Warren even contributed to a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow: A Collection of Recipes from Families of the Five Civilized Tribes: Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek & Seminole, where she listed herself as “Cherokee.”

These are things Warren should not have done, because she is not a Native American. It would have been easy to apologize. To say that, like many white Americans, she has a family story about being part Native American, and she got carried away with it. Instead, however, Warren has reaffirmed her claim to being part Native American, and said that her mother and father were forced to elope because her mother’s family were discriminated against for being part Native American. Now, Warren has released the results of a DNA test that she claims proves her claim to be part Native American, thereby justifying actions such as listing herself as a racial minority, allowing Harvard Law to claim her as its first woman of color, and calling herself Cherokee.


There are also serious problems with presenting a DNA test. First, if the test proved anything, it proved the opposite of what Warren said it proved, showing that her claimed ancestry is almost negligible at best. The test showed Warren to have between 1/64 and 1/1024 Native ancestry, with one ancestor six to ten generations ago, meaning one person probably in the 18th century and possibly as far back as 1700. By this standard, a very, very large number of white Americans could list themselves as being “Cherokee” in the tribal cookbook.



More importantly, though, the use of the DNA test was itself both questionable and insulting to Native Americans.



Also...

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Old 10-16-2018, 02:39 PM
 
Location: New York
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For one, it showed he is a liar, but everyone already knew that. Then there is this:

President Donald Trump once promised he would donate $1 million to charity if Sen. Elizabeth Warren could prove her Native American ancestry with a DNA test.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-res...161355381.html
Yes, but she doesn't! She has less than the average Euro-American. I have about 5% NA in me, but I do not claim to be one. C'mon, lets acknowledge she lied for personal gain. Trump lies all the time, she lies all the time.

They are all liars!

It's not that hard to show common sense.


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An excellent article from a pro-Warren author.

Elizabeth Warren’s Native Ancestry Response Is A Complete Disaster

Warren did do something wrong here: she is not a Native American, but she identified herself as a “Native American” in the The Association of American Law Schools Directory of law professors between 1986 and 1995, and Harvard recorded her as Native American as late as 2004. At the University of Pennsylvania, she identified herself as a racial minority. She was described in the Fordham Law Review in 1997 as Harvard Law School’s first “woman of color.” Warren even contributed to a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow: A Collection of Recipes from Families of the Five Civilized Tribes: Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek & Seminole, where she listed herself as “Cherokee.”

These are things Warren should not have done, because she is not a Native American. It would have been easy to apologize. To say that, like many white Americans, she has a family story about being part Native American, and she got carried away with it. Instead, however, Warren has reaffirmed her claim to being part Native American, and said that her mother and father were forced to elope because her mother’s family were discriminated against for being part Native American. Now, Warren has released the results of a DNA test that she claims proves her claim to be part Native American, thereby justifying actions such as listing herself as a racial minority, allowing Harvard Law to claim her as its first woman of color, and calling herself Cherokee.


There are also serious problems with presenting a DNA test. First, if the test proved anything, it proved the opposite of what Warren said it proved, showing that her claimed ancestry is almost negligible at best. The test showed Warren to have between 1/64 and 1/1024 Native ancestry, with one ancestor six to ten generations ago, meaning one person probably in the 18th century and possibly as far back as 1700. By this standard, a very, very large number of white Americans could list themselves as being “Cherokee” in the tribal cookbook.



More importantly, though, the use of the DNA test was itself both questionable and insulting to Native Americans.



Also...


Even the Cherokee Nation denounced her yesterday. Now she's claiming she has Delaware in her as well.


That's called doubling down on a lie.


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My recollection is that Elizabeth Warren claimed to have some Indian blood in her family tree. She never claimed to be 100% native American. This DNA test validates that.
How? It couldn't say which NA tribe, or even if it was North American. She could have a drop of Central or South AmerIndian blood and it would trigger. Did you not read that the Cherokee Nation said that her claims are "hurting, not helping"?
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:39 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Last week, Kavanaugh. This week, Warren. Wonder who it will be next week. Always entertaining around this place.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Yes, but she doesn't! She has less than the average Euro-American. I have about 5% NA in me, but I do not claim to be one. C'mon, lets acknowledge she lied for personal gain. Trump lies all the time, she lies all the time.


They are all liars!


It's not that hard to show common sense.
What did she gain from it?

Give examples if you can.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:41 PM
 
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That poor duck can never be president now though.




It has a better chance than Pocahontas!
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Once a shrill harpy, always a shrill harpy.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: My House
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Does that mean it is time to smoke the peace pipe, now?
No... it just means this crap is a tempest in a tea pot.

Who cares?

I mean, people are constantly telling me they are of Irish decent, Italian descent, etc.

Until there's some sign that she got federal grants or scholarships under the pretense of being Native American, I just don't care.

I mean, I do not live in her state. I did not vote for her. I do not want her to run for President.

If she does, I will not be voting for her in the primary. She's a bad choice.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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The Florida upper Gulf coast needs rebuilding

The Saudi's murdered a guy they didn't like. He was a permanent USA resident. He had a green card. We can't say a thing because they give us business.

The EPA is contemplating allowing drillers to dump their waste water into rivers. They are running out of places to store the contaminated water, so those of us downstream get to drink it. No telling what it will do to the oceans.

Goodness knows how many more hundreds of kids from Central America are being held at a cost of hundreds per day. Looks like seizing their kids was not a deterrent to coming here.

Lindsey and McConnell have time to chime in on Warren?

How low can we sink?
Trump was having that lunatic meeting with Kanye during Hurricane Michael. Of course, the GOP seem to really have their priorities in line. Can't you tell?

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Old 10-16-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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Wouldn't her siblings also have to get tested to get an accurate picture of her family's Native American heritage ? Her other siblings may have more native American DNA than what shows up in her test results.

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