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This is for the GMAT, but the same applies to the ACT/SAT, as well.
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"The passages in the Reading Comprehension section of the GMAT can be difficult to understand: they appear to be overloaded with extraneous information, and sometimes it seems as though the test-makers have deliberately chosen arcane and obscure passages about topics that no human being could ever be interested in.
Not always true. Reading comprehension tests frequently include extraneous and even incorrect info in a reading passage to test critical thinking skills. That actually trips up many test-takers. They can't glean the point and/or the valid info presented in the passage. I just proved your point to be incorrect.
Employment skills tests are real. Naturally, depending on the skills necessary for the job, the difficulty of the tests will vary.
You're making the classic mistake of assuming that your very limited experience is exactly the same that everyone else has. It's not.
LOL on the bold - I know you have an inflated view of yourself but you seem to be failing the idea of my main thesis in regards to this topic - that ACT scores are not valuable for employers.
I tricked you with the off topic references I guess or you tricked yourself by focusing on something that was not the main idea.
I never said that employment tests aren't "real." They are - that's why I created said tests for interviewees....
However, ACT is not important in regards to the workplace. Employers don't care about your ACT scores - they care if you can flip a burger, get along with others, and provide good customer service at a fast food restaurant where most of the teens I know are employed right now. None of those skills/personality traits are a part of ACT or SAT.
On this, you should pay attention to your link in regards to your own reading comprehension skills. I actually was taught the following:
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Typically, the writer uses the first paragraph to establish the topic they’ll be discussing in the entire passage. The second paragraph is used to question someone else’s stance on that topic. Finally, the writer uses the third paragraph to establish his or her own stance on that topic.
The bold/colored sections are typical of any reading passage and/or essay (if the writer is a decent writer for short passage works). You often overlook the last 2 items of a writer by cutting things out of context. Due to that, you'd do poorly on reading comprehension as you often totally ignore the writers "stance on that topic" and you focus on your own instead of what the writer is sharing with you.
LOL on the bold - I know you have an inflated view of yourself but you seem to be failing the idea of my main thesis in regards to this topic - that ACT scores are not valuable for employers.
The ACT is a skills test. So are employers' skills tests. Understand?
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I tricked you with the off topic references I guess or you tricked yourself by focusing on something that was not the main idea.
Yeah, right.
[Snipped a lot of senseless and extraneous back pedaling...]
Example of poor reading comprehension for "InformedConsent"
My original post of which you took out of contexts
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Originally Posted by residinghere2007
Because more states are making all students take them - even students that are not interested in attending college. OP your state of MI does this - makes all students take the ACT.
I'm from Ohio and when I was in high school only college bound students took the ACT. If every kid at my school took it, we'd have looked like a school of idiots in some ways.
Testing culture is always going to show things looking "worst" and then convince people more test are needed, which will show the same thing. There is no reason for all students in a particular state to take the ACT other than to make the ACT company money.
You cut out my entire post and therefore, overlooked my main idea/thesis, which is the pink.
Instead you stated
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
The ACT doesn't just measure college readiness. It measures work readiness, as well.
Given the ever-declining score results, an increasing number of BOTH college-bound students and those who aren't college-bound are woefully inadequately prepared for either.
The bold/underlined has nothing to do with what I stated. By your own link's measure, you'd get a zero on a question on the ACT about what the main point of my passage was. You created a topic about the workforce, when I didn't even mention the workforce. It is pretty hilarious.
The ACT is a skills test. So are employers' skills tests. Understand?
Yeah, right.
[Snipped a lot of senseless and extraneous back pedaling...]
It is a skills test for college - do you understand that lol
I specifically mentioned it is only important for college admissions - it is testing academic skills that are not useful in the workplace.
If it was, then all employers would use it. I've been working since I was a teen and I actually still have my ACT results paper that I got in high school way back in 1996; I've never been asked for it at a job. I was asked to take a test on typing and Microsoft though. Never had to do that for the ACT/SAT even though I did take "word processing" in high school and that is where I learned how to type and use Microsoft Office
ETA: But you go on thinking that employers use the ACT and that more kids who don't want to take it are being forced to take it. That makes you feel better. Every time I see your posts on this topic I think you must work for ETS lol.
On this, you should pay attention to your link in regards to your own reading comprehension skills. I actually was taught the following:
The bold/colored sections are typical of any reading passage and/or essay (if the writer is a decent writer for short passage works).
What makes you think the ACT tests the comprehension of formulaic writing? That's a rather odd assumption to make. You remind of the third graders taught to write hamburger-style:
1. The average IQ of Americans is declining at 1% point per year. Why? Idiots have more children than intelligent people and the federal government pays idiots to have more children.
2. Lack of parental support/emphasis on education. My youngest son is a teacher. He, having gone to parochial schools with two supportive parents, is shocked at the lack of discipline and involvement of parents in their children's education. He is arranging to change to a more affluent school district, as he feels as though he is more of a warden than a teacher.
3. Influx of uneducated, lower income immigrants, many of whom do not speak English. Prior to 1965, the US set immigration policy to favor European immigrants. Due to the efforts of Ted Kennedy, that was abolished. As a result, we are importing less intelligent, less educated people, many of whom never learn to speak English. In genetics, diversity is advantageous; culturally, diversity is toxic to a nation. The most prosperous nations are the least "diverse".
4. US education policy of "no child left behind". Children who have not met/mastered the requirements for a given grade used to be flunked until they mastered that level. Now, it is considered "politically incorrect" to fail students. In doing so, we, as a society, are failing the students by condemning them to a life of failure and turmoil. Failing those who have not met the requirements of a given grade is doing the child ultimately a big favor in assuring that some minimum standard is met. Now it is felt that failing someone will damage them psychologically- nonsense- passing someone who has not met standards is dooming them for the future and assuring failure.
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