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I will defer to the author of this article in National Review who disagrees with you.
I will only quote the writer's conclusion, you might want to read the entire article for context:
Quick Enough is the third anti-immigrant poster to intentionally misquote that particular sentence from Senator Howard. The fact that they feel the need to manipulate evidence in order to find support for their position should tell you all you need to know about the strength of their underlying argument.
That’s not accurate at all. The Federal laws which exclude illegals from receiving federally funded programs like SNAP include so many special exceptions, that it’s difficult for state agencies to determine who is disqualified (or a convenient excuse to grant benefits to ineligible applicants). Furthermore, several states provide state funded assistance in the cases where the applicants are not qualified for the federal programs.
And, given the large number of “sanctuary cities” where local governments, courts, and law enforcement deliberately give Federal Law their proverbial middle finger, and refuse to cooperate with Federal Immigration officials or comply with federal laws, which insanely include CRIMINALS for whom these localities refuse to report and turn over to ICE illegals who have been arrested and incarcerated and subsequently released back into their communities ... is there any room for a rational person to believe these same law breaking, law ignoring DEMOCRAT dominated dim wits aren’t also granting public assistance to these illegals that they BREAK FEDERAL LAW TO PROTECT?
Please!!!
That being said, food stamps, by comparison, is probably a much lesser financial burden than we endure when compared to the astronomical healthcare costs that these illegals ABSOLUTELY RECEIVE.... including the pricey cost of hospital care for the delivery of those anchor babies! While the regular working class American citizen is being milked like old Bessie for our healthcare, and enduring a Marxist Obama-nation of forced healthcare purchase, those who don’t even belong here, RIDE FREE, on our blood sweat and tears earned dime.
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That’s not accurate at all. The Federal laws which exclude illegals from receiving federally funded programs like SNAP include so many special exceptions, that it’s difficult for state agencies to determine who is disqualified (or a convenient excuse to grant benefits to ineligible applicants). Furthermore, several states provide state funded assistance in the cases where the applicants are not qualified for the federal programs.
And, given the large number of “sanctuary cities” where local governments, courts, and law enforcement deliberately give Federal Law their proverbial middle finger, and refuse to cooperate with Federal Immigration officials or comply with federal laws, which insanely include CRIMINALS for whom these localities refuse to report and turn over to ICE illegals who have been arrested and incarcerated and subsequently released back into their communities ... is there any room for a rational person to believe these same law breaking, law ignoring DEMOCRAT dominated dim wits aren’t also granting public assistance to these illegals that they BREAK FEDERAL LAW TO PROTECT?
Please!!!
That being said, food stamps, by comparison, is probably a much lesser financial burden than we endure when compared to the astronomical healthcare costs that these illegals ABSOLUTELY RECEIVE.... including the pricey cost of hospital care for the delivery of those anchor babies! While the regular working class American citizen is being milked like old Bessie for our healthcare, and enduring a Marxist Obama-nation of forced healthcare purchase, those who don’t even belong here, RIDE FREE, on our blood sweat and tears earned dime.
December 2015 Overview of Immigrant Eligibility for Federal Programs
The major federal public benefits programs have always left some non–U.S. citizens out of eligibility for assistance from the programs. Since their inception, programs such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as the Food Stamp Program), nonemergency Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and its precursor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), have been inaccessible to undocumented immigrants and people in the United States on temporary visas.
<snip>
The “qualified” immigrant category includes:
lawful permanent residents, or LPRs (people with green cards)
refugees, people granted asylum or withholding of deportation/removal, and conditional entrants
people granted parole by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for a period of at least one year
Cuban and Haitian entrants
certain abused immigrants, their children, and/or their parents
December 2015 Overview of Immigrant Eligibility for Federal Programs
The major federal public benefits programs have always left some non–U.S. citizens out of eligibility for assistance from the programs. Since their inception, programs such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as the Food Stamp Program), nonemergency Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and its precursor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), have been inaccessible to undocumented immigrants and people in the United States on temporary visas.
<snip>
The “qualified” immigrant category includes:
lawful permanent residents, or LPRs (people with green cards)
refugees, people granted asylum or withholding of deportation/removal, and conditional entrants
people granted parole by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for a period of at least one year
Cuban and Haitian entrants
certain abused immigrants, their children, and/or their parents
certain survivors of trafficking
None of this matters when the anchor babies are factored in. In New York and California for example, 30-40% of Medicaid births are to illegals. Once born on soil, the BABY is entitled to foodstamps, WIC, medicaid, housing assistance, etc. The benefit flows to the CHILD AMERICAN CITIZEN, and the mother/relatives get to enjoy those benefits. More kids = more benefits.
Meanwhile, if there's a father around, and IF he's using a stolen SSI#, the pittance of taxes he pays while working will never, ever recoup the costs of the kids' entitlements. And forget once the kids get into public school and VPK, at a cost of 10K+ per year, per student to educate of tax money. Then let's talk about filing taxes with that stolen SS# and getting tax returns with child tax credits.
That article discusses legal and illegal immigrants in the same article and while I didn't read the entire thing, it doesn't look like they pointed out something that is very important - no illegal alien can receive SNAP benefits, or TANF, or subsidized housing, however their citizen children are eligible for benefits, just like any other citizen.
Illegal aliens are not eligible for any benefits except for emergency room treatment. A few states allow undocumented immigrant children to receive medicaid, the last time I checked there were 6 states that allowed that, and I believe all states use emergency medicaid funds to reimburse hospitals for the cost of delivering the babies of illegal immigrants.
I didn't source this because this information is readily available online and it's not hard to look it up if you have any questions
Good grief! I provided the quote and I provided the link. You "couldn't read the entire thing."
I guess some folks just cannot handle anything that contradicts their belief.
None of this matters when the anchor babies are factored in. In New York and California for example, 30-40% of Medicaid births are to illegals. Once born on soil, the BABY is entitled to foodstamps, WIC, medicaid, housing assistance, etc. The benefit flows to the CHILD AMERICAN CITIZEN, and the mother/relatives get to enjoy those benefits. More kids = more benefits.
Meanwhile, if there's a father around, and IF he's using a stolen SSI#, the pittance of taxes he pays while working will never, ever recoup the costs of the kids' entitlements. And forget once the kids get into public school and VPK, at a cost of 10K+ per year, per student to educate of tax money. Then let's talk about filing taxes with that stolen SS# and getting tax returns with child tax credits.
California wanted to expand ... state rights and all that ... good for them.
Health Coverage and Care for Undocumented Immigrants
"The Affordable Care Act (ACA) greatly expanded insurance coverage for low-income Californians through Medi-Cal, the state’s Medicaid program.3 Even so, about one million low-income adults and some children were ineligible because they are undocumented immigrants.4 For the 60 to 70 percent of undocumented immigrants who lack insurance, health care options are limited.5 Counties provide services to uninsured residents through indigent care programs, but without standard eligibility requirements; several counties exclude undocumented immigrants from these services."
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btw: supporting documentation would have been nice, not necessary, but nice. As it is, I'm not finding support for 30-40% of Medicaid births are to illegals. As for as stolen SSI, I've looked into that already, turns out that is hard to prove.
California wanted to expand ... state rights and all that ... good for them.
Health Coverage and Care for Undocumented Immigrants
"The Affordable Care Act (ACA) greatly expanded insurance coverage for low-income Californians through Medi-Cal, the state’s Medicaid program.3 Even so, about one million low-income adults and some children were ineligible because they are undocumented immigrants.4 For the 60 to 70 percent of undocumented immigrants who lack insurance, health care options are limited.5 Counties provide services to uninsured residents through indigent care programs, but without standard eligibility requirements; several counties exclude undocumented immigrants from these services."
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btw: supporting documentation would have been nice, not necessary, but nice. As it is, I'm not finding support for 30-40% of Medicaid births are to illegals. As for as stolen SSI, I've looked into that already, turns out that is hard to prove.
This 2011 California Department of Health Services report https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/med...esentation.pdf
shows 29% of all Medi-Cal births to undocumented mothers. See pie chart on p. 11 and bar graph on p. 24. Side note next to pie chart:
Quote:
Two aid code categories
accounted for roughly 80%
of all Medi-Cal financed
births: mothers enrolled in
Families aid codes (50.6%),
and mothers enrolled in
Undocumented aid
codes (29.2%).
This 2011 California Department of Health Services report https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/med...esentation.pdf
shows 29% of all Medi-Cal births to undocumented mothers. See pie chart on p. 11 and bar graph on p. 24. Side note next to pie chart:
ty ... i was finding 7% and 15% reporting from the GAO but it was 1997 documentation. Hard to prove stats makes a person wonder as to what is being said, if it is true or not.
Let me restate the obvious, in case anyone missed the point.
Someone claimed illegals don’t recieve food stamps..... totally not true.
Such programs, while federally funded, are administered at the state level. We know for certain that many local agencies, state agencies, local and state authorities admittedly ignore Federal Law by declaring themselves “sanctuary cities”, refusing to comply/cooperate with Federal Law and Federal Law Enforcement. I don’t think it takes anything more than basic common sense to grasp the high probability of these same authorities ignoring the rules governing who is not eligible for these programs. I suspect it is quite common for these authorities administering these programs to simply check a box, ruberstamp style “qualified”.
If they are willingly and deliberately ignoring FEDERAL LAW ... chances are they are ignoring “rules” too. You’d have to be an idiot to believe otherwise.
Let me restate the obvious, in case anyone missed the point.
Someone claimed illegals don’t recieve food stamps..... totally not true.
Such programs, while federally funded, are administered at the state level. We know for certain that many local agencies, state agencies, local and state authorities admittedly ignore Federal Law by declaring themselves “sanctuary cities”, refusing to comply/cooperate with Federal Law and Federal Law Enforcement. I don’t think it takes anything more than basic common sense to grasp the high probability of these same authorities ignoring the rules governing who is not eligible for these programs. I suspect it is quite common for these authorities administering these programs to simply check a box, ruberstamp style “qualified”.
If they are willingly and deliberately ignoring FEDERAL LAW ... chances are they are ignoring “rules” too. You’d have to be an idiot to believe otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellis Bell
December 2015 Overview of Immigrant Eligibility for Federal Programs
The major federal public benefits programs have always left some non–U.S. citizens out of eligibility for assistance from the programs. Since their inception, programs such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as the Food Stamp Program), nonemergency Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and its precursor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), have been inaccessible to undocumented immigrants and people in the United States on temporary visas.
<snip>
The “qualified” immigrant category includes:
lawful permanent residents, or LPRs (people with green cards)
refugees, people granted asylum or withholding of deportation/removal, and conditional entrants
people granted parole by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for a period of at least one year
Cuban and Haitian entrants
certain abused immigrants, their children, and/or their parents
certain survivors of trafficking
just in case any one missed it ...
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