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Old 11-07-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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Yesterday was a huge loss for the "Resistance." They gained fewer seats than opposition parties usually do. The Tea Party gained both the Senate and House, and gained over 60 seats in the House! A true Red Wave. The Resistance lost seats in the Senate and gained fewer seats in the House than opposition parties have historically have on average. The takeaway from yesterday is that Trump Train 2020 has more momentum than Hope Train 2012 did.
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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Yesterday was a huge loss for the "Resistance." They gained fewer seats than opposition parties usually do. The Tea Party gained both the Senate and House, and gained over 60 seats in the House! A true Red Wave. The Resistance lost seats in the Senate and gained fewer seats in the House than opposition parties have historically have on average. The takeaway from yesterday is that Trump Train 2020 has more momentum than Hope Train 2012 did.
Sure thing...
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:57 PM
 
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They're really gonna be mad when we kick out their illegal alien base of reliable voters.
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:14 PM
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That's a remarkably simplistic read of what happened.


Democrats had a bunch of weak red-state senators up for re-election. They were never expected to do well even thought Democrats got millions more votes for senate across the country. The senate is fundamentally anti-democratic.


The house is grossly gerrymandered. Republicans can take the house even if they lose the popular vote (they have, in fact, done exactly that in the recent past). Democrats need a margin of +6 or +7 to have any real hope of taking over.


The bigger story is that Republicans went down in place like Wisconsin. You know, places Trump absolutely has to hold onto if he wants to be reelected.


I don't know what his strategy is going to be to keep the rust belt red. He had one trick - lie to them about bring back jobs. He's unlikely to be able to sell that lie again in 2020.


The real takeaway is that the will of the people doesn't matter all that much. The will of the people in a few states and in a few districts matters a whole lot, though.
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:18 PM
 
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That's a remarkably simplistic read of what happened.


Democrats had a bunch of weak red-state senators up for re-election. They were never expected to do well even Democrats got millions more votes for senate across the country. The senate is fundamentally anti-democratic.


The house is grossly gerrymandered. Republicans can take the house even if they lose the popular vote (they have, in fact, done exactly that in the recent past). Democrats need a margin of +6 or +7 to have any real hope of taking over.


The bigger story is that Republicans went down in place like Wisconsin. You know, places Trump absolutely has to hold onto if he wants to be reelected.


I don't know what his strategy is going to be to keep the rust belt red. He had one trick - lie to them about bring back jobs. He's unlikely to be able to sell that lie again in 2020.


The real takeaway is that the will of the people doesn't matter all that much. The will of the people in a few states and in a few districts matters a whole lot, though.
Its funny how liberals are acting like having a Republican or Democrat governor somehow equals what the electoral votes will look like. New Hampshire, Vermont, and Massachusetts all have Republican governors (who were all reelected), does that mean they will vote red in 2020?
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:25 PM
 
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The only ones panicking are potential subpoena recipients.
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:31 PM
 
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The bigger story is that Republicans went down in place like Wisconsin. You know, places Trump absolutely has to hold onto if he wants to be reelected.

What does that have to do with Trump? Trump wasn't on the ballot in Wisconsin........Trump lost Wisconsin in the 2016 GOP primaries and won in it the general. 2 years is a long time in politics.
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:35 PM
 
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They're really gonna be mad when we kick out their illegal alien base of reliable voters.
The legal Democratic voters actually stayed home and left it up to all the millions of "illegal" voters to kick right wing butt. Mission accomplished!
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:42 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Yesterday was a huge loss for the "Resistance." They gained fewer seats than opposition parties usually do. The Tea Party gained both the Senate and House, and gained over 60 seats in the House! A true Red Wave. The Resistance lost seats in the Senate and gained fewer seats in the House than opposition parties have historically have on average. The takeaway from yesterday is that Trump Train 2020 has more momentum than Hope Train 2012 did.
"Ya see, it was really a GOOD THING that the Repubs lost the House and Dems will now be stonewalling legislation and launching probes into everything..."

uh.. ok, I guess you can spin anything.
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:59 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Yesterday was a huge loss for the "Resistance." They gained fewer seats than opposition parties usually do. The Tea Party gained both the Senate and House, and gained over 60 seats in the House! A true Red Wave. The Resistance lost seats in the Senate and gained fewer seats in the House than opposition parties have historically have on average. The takeaway from yesterday is that Trump Train 2020 has more momentum than Hope Train 2012 did.
Actually, the average is 25. Democrats have officially picked up 28 as of right now with 10 more with races yet to be called.
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