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Old 11-13-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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Goodness gracious.

You must know that freedom of speech and expression ONLY protects you from being arrested and prosecuted by your government. It has NOTHING to do with natural consequences of your actions. Say, a college sees this photo and there's little Johnny Smith throwing up the good ole Sieg Heil for all to see. Said college doesn't want Johnny Smith on their campus because he either supports Nazism or thinks the whole thing is a joke. So bye bye Johnny. THAT is not a violation of freedom of speech and expression. It's natural consequences for being an idiot.
I predict there will be consequences for public universities making such decisions. They cannot or should not eliminate students based on their political beliefs. They're required to pay lip service to the 1st amendment.
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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Goodness gracious.

You must know that freedom of speech and expression ONLY protects you from being arrested and prosecuted by your government. It has NOTHING to do with natural consequences of your actions. Say, a college sees this photo and there's little Johnny Smith throwing up the good ole Sieg Heil for all to see. Said college doesn't want Johnny Smith on their campus because he either supports Nazism or thinks the whole thing is a joke. So bye bye Johnny. THAT is not a violation of freedom of speech and expression. It's natural consequences for being an idiot.
What are the "natural consequences" for wearing Che Guevara or Mao t-shirt? Would colleges have a problem with that?
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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Another SJW moment that brings out snowflakes on social media spouting "I'm offended"-type messages.

Having spent time with two Holocaust survivors, both of whom lost most of their families and friends due to Nazism, I say too damn bad for you if my offense to these idiot boys OFFENDS YOU.
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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The school would get sued. It is disgusting but not illegal and the school did not sanction it. They have no say.
What are you talking about? A school can punish a student for things they did off campus.
I'm sure that some dumb parents would try to sue, and claim they were waving, but then they'd also be a court ruling stating that the kid was justifiably suspended for promoting the murder of minorities.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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I predict there will be consequences for public universities making such decisions. They cannot or should not eliminate students based on their political beliefs. They're required to pay lip service to the 1st amendment.
They can and do eliminate candidates for whatever they darn well please. It happens all the time and there is absolutely NO legal recourse for these poor little boys to take.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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I predict there will be consequences for public universities making such decisions. They cannot or should not eliminate students based on their political beliefs. They're required to pay lip service to the 1st amendment.
Nazissm stopped being a valid political belief the second that coward of a leader shot himself in the head.


You guys keep outing yourselves.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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What are the "natural consequences" for wearing Che Guevara or Mao t-shirt? Would colleges have a problem with that?
They may or may not. What I said was a hypothetical, an "if," based on actions of other colleges whose accepted students acted like idiots.

Again, a college can reject whichever candidate they so choose for nearly any reason they want.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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They can and do eliminate candidates for whatever they darn well please. It happens all the time and there is absolutely NO legal recourse for these poor little boys to take.
Of course there is legal recourse. When it happens on some individual basis, people may choose not to sue because it's expensive but these boys (their families) can pool their resources and sue. And they'd have a case. It's a public funded entity discriminating based on speech. It will definitely find itself to the USSC.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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Nazissm stopped being a valid political belief the second that coward of a leader shot himself in the head.


You guys keep outing yourselves.
So it was a valid political belief before?
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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So it was a valid political belief before?
Nope, just saying it was a political belief. People from the time period definitely believed it was valid; how’d that work out for them again?
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