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Old 12-08-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Americans are ruining this movement with their analysis.


Conservatives are saying this is a pro-Trump anti-climate change movement calling for less taxes and immigration.

Liberals are saying this is a far right movement backed by Russia and a sign of how we must rally behind the establishment.

The truth is this is an actual left wing movement that is calling for democratic worker councils, lower rent and taxes on the working class, and less control of capital by corporations.

Real left wing populism is foriegn to Americans who only know only what their elite tell them.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I’ve read they chanted “We love Trump” or something similar. Unbelievable, this fight against global warming has gone too far.
Plus they can’t tax the rich people anymore, the wealth tax caused people to leave France.
Please take note California.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Americans are ruining this movement with their analysis.


Conservatives are saying this is a pro-Trump anti-climate change movement calling for less taxes and immigration.

Liberals are saying this is a far right movement backed by Russia and a sign of how we must rally behind the establishment.

The truth is this is an actual left wing movement that is calling for democratic worker councils, lower rent and taxes on the working class, and less control of capital by corporations.

Real left wing populism is foriegn to Americans who only know only what their elite tell them.
Thank you, All Seeing Eye. I certainly trust your analysis more than I do the words from the mouths of the people on the streets of Paris protesting.

And things like inflatable Trumps. Just a joke, of course. It was really communists pretending to be Trumpettes.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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So you agree that the politicians specifically stated that an increase in fuel would reduce gasoline usage and therefore help the environment as people shifted to mass transit and more green sources...but you just doubt their sincerity and think it was 100% about paying for their bloated and not fully solvent social programs?
Read their demands.

These protest are coming from farmers, union workers, and students, all demanding more democracy in the economy instead of corporate rule and all calling for less rent and taxes and the poor working class.

This is a people's movement and Macron is a right wing thug.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Thank you, All Seeing Eye. I certainly trust your analysis more than I do the words from the mouths of the people on the streets of Paris protesting.
This is what they say, this is their list of demands.

If you turn of American propaganda for a second you'll learn this isn't a right wing movement like establishment goons want you to think.

Unlike Americans who worship power because they think we're exceptional Europeans fight against state and corporate tyranny.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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Read their demands.

These protest are coming from farmers, union workers, and students, all demanding more democracy in the economy instead of corporate rule and all calling for less rent and taxes and the poor working class.

This is a people's movement and Macron is a right wing thug.
Macron is a globalist, multiculturalist baizuo.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:28 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Read their demands.

These protest are coming from farmers, union workers, and students, all demanding more democracy in the economy instead of corporate rule and all calling for less rent and taxes and the poor working class.

This is a people's movement and Macron is a right wing thug.
Do you read the WSJ? It’s not what your saying here. The wealthy have left France because of the wealth tax. Globalization has caused these poor people to be even poorer, no job. Same as Brexit. It’s unfodling across Europe and the rest of the world. The gas tax on top of this is dance of death or Danse Macabre.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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It was a way to tax the poor to give breaks to the rich. Period.
What tax did Trump put on the poor specifically ?
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:29 PM
 
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Americans are ruining this movement with their analysis.


Conservatives are saying this is a pro-Trump anti-climate change movement calling for less taxes and immigration.

Liberals are saying this is a far right movement backed by Russia and a sign of how we must rally behind the establishment.

The truth is this is an actual left wing movement that is calling for democratic worker councils, lower rent and taxes on the working class, and less control of capital by corporations.

Real left wing populism is foriegn to Americans who only know only what their elite tell them.
It's ALL of those -- plus some. Don't forget the Looters & Anarchists.
Never forget -- many people RIOT because it's fun and profitable.

This motley crew of many thousands is a real problem for Macron and the Globalists - it's comprised of so many groups that they can't find a "leader" to negotiate with.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:30 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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This is what they say, this is their list of demands.

If you turn of American propaganda for a second you'll learn this isn't a right wing movement like establishment goons want you to think.

Unlike Americans who worship power because they think we're exceptional Europeans fight against state and corporate tyranny.
And if you'd watch the dozens of videos on Youtube of the actual events and people, and turn off the left-wing second guessers, you might have a different point of view.
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