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Old 12-08-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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I read and understand French and it's not clear what's going on. It seems to me to be a protest everyone is supporting left/center/right. As always the left and the right are trying to hijack their movement but are not doing a very good job at it. People are calling for revolution, and left/right groups want to get on top of it for 'damage control' and go back to business as usual. Which is what they do in every country: divide the people to argue about nonsense while rich people can continue to take all the money.

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So what does that mean that they hate the rich, etc.. it makes no sense. They hate it because their lives suck and they are already a socialist country with free healthcare. Have you ever been to France, they take huge lunch break, what more do they want. Workers have a lot of rights there already. Let’s not try to push your Bernie Sanders view here.
They don't hate "socialism", they want to KEEP it. What Macron is been trying to do is dismantling their welfare system. Incredible how people completely distort things to push their biases!

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Old 12-08-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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They voted for him, why are they complaining now.
A slim plurality votes for him to stop a le pen from coming to power.

The thing Americans don’t understand is that democracy doesn’t end after the election, it is about the people controlling the few.
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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It appears the Nazis never left France. They just donned yellow vests instead of Swastikas.
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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I read and understand French and it's not clear what's going on. It seems to me to be a protest everyone is supporting left/center/right. As always the left and the right are trying to hijack their movement but are not doing a very good job at it.



They don't hate "socialism", they want to KEEP it. What Macron is been trying to do is dismantling their welfare system. Incredible how people completely distort things to push their biases!
How does raising the petrol tax equate to the dismantling of the French welfare system?
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:11 PM
 
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It appears the Nazis never left France. They just donned yellow vests instead of Swastikas.
Everyone you disagree with is a "Nazi."
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:12 PM
 
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How does raising the petrol tax equate to the dismantling of the French welfare system?
I edited my comment, but to answer your question Macron has been going after workers rights and civil rights in general. Higher petrol taxes affects working people the most. It was just the tipping point, it is not the main cause of the protests.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20zUyILgflY
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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It appears the Nazis never left France. They just donned yellow vests instead of Swastikas.
NOOO!!!

The are left wing, actual left wing unlike your liberal heros in America who support corporate rule.

Macron is a right wing thug, what don’t you understand???????!
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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They voted for him, why are they complaining now.

They were rooked by the Globalists. Didn't Obama go there to campaign for Macron? Where is he now?
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Old 12-08-2018, 05:06 PM
 
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While people in the US continue to drum the same BS: left vs right. France is calling it for what it is: rich vs poor. Most poor countries know this; despite the news not reporting what this is about this will likely spread. This is one of the few reports on the issue:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUjr4cvdmbM
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Old 12-08-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So you agree that the politicians specifically stated that an increase in fuel would reduce gasoline usage and therefore help the environment as people shifted to mass transit and more green sources...but you just doubt their sincerity and think it was 100% about paying for their bloated and not fully solvent social programs?



Ya, restrict or over tax resources and see if your State comes to a halt in economic production.
When more work and higher wages are needed to make up the added cost, put people out of work and see how that turns out.
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