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Old 12-01-2018, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The republicans needed PT Barnum to win even a narrow election, it doesn't bode well for them in 2020 and beyond. The republicans gave up what few values they had when the accepted Trump.

 
Old 12-01-2018, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Nice, but she fell for the okey doke just like most other Republicans. She should’ve known that Trump was a carnival barker back in 2016.

Now it’s too late. Sorry Ann. You’re just not that smart.
Honestly, we had a 30 year history of Trump to evaluate prior to his election. Anybody who thought the Trump administration was going to be anything BUT a circus apparently didn't bother to look.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 06:17 AM
 
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I don't know why anyone expected him to build that wall - as soon as he said Mexico would pay for it, everyone should have realized it was too ridiculous to ever see into fruition. The most they will get is some strengthening of the fence already there.

It's like when Bill Maher said he needs to produce a birth certificate to prove he's not the offspring of an Orangutan - when something is so ridiculous everyone should realize it's a joke.

Ridiculous, huh? The wall was already approved by congress back in 2006. It ain't over till the fat lady sings. Besides, would you rather continue to pay the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us or foot the bill for a $25 billion wall? The choice is clear.


https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf
 
Old 12-01-2018, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I don't know why anyone expected him to build that wall - as soon as he said Mexico would pay for it, everyone should have realized it was too ridiculous to ever see into fruition. The most they will get is some strengthening of the fence already there.

It's like when Bill Maher said he needs to produce a birth certificate to prove he's not the offspring of an Orangutan - when something is so ridiculous everyone should realize it's a joke.
You people just don't get it. "Mexico paying for the wall" DOES NOT MEAN that Mexico was going to write a check. They are not the same thing.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Honestly, we had a 30 year history of Trump to evaluate prior to his election. Anybody who thought the Trump administration was going to be anything BUT a circus apparently didn't bother to look.
I voted for a circus - gladly - over more of the same (and worse) with Hillary.

I'd make the same vote again.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 06:26 AM
 
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Let's not conflate legal and illegal immigration. All human beings essentially want the same thing. We all have the same desires but what separates some is awareness of other people's needs and others are purely driven by selfish impulses. Illegal immigrants are driven by selfish impulses - they know the laws and chose to disregard them. How are they different from a burglar who breaks into your home and takes your TV? The burglar also wants a better life but at the same time has no respect for your property.

In my opinion, someone who knowingly broke the laws to enter the country, should be deported, and the country's population should consider themselves lucky to be rid of such a character.

Both the Democrat and Republican party are using the illegal immigration issue to gather votes without addressing it. The only solution (in my opinion) is to make laws so tough that illegal immigrants can't really function - can't get drivers licenses, can't go into hospitals for treatment without being arrested, can't send their kids to public schools, can't get jobs {by going after employers} etc.

And America can then determine how much legal immigration it wants and/or needs and also how many refugees it can accept. But coddling illegal immigration, I'm 100% against.

Excellent post! I would only add that contrary to the leftist's lying rhetoric this has nothing to do with hating immigrants. Illegal aliens aren't plain ole immigrants anyway and we merely object to their presence here. It has nothing to do with hatred. Trump has not spread hatred of either group. He is merely being honest that illegal aliens have a negative impact on our country. No one has the right to a better life by breaking laws and taking from others what doesn't belong to them. Something that escapes these bleeding heart types.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 06:39 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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To me, the most interesting quote from the linked blog post...

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Within 10 seconds of Trump's leaving office, there will be no evidence that he was ever president. Laws will be changed, executive orders rescinded, treaties re-written and courts packed.
Well, yes, this is the danger in electing someone who cannot work with the other branches of government to produce lasting change and instead relies on executive orders. President Obama did it to some extent, too, but for President Trump, it's an art form. So Coulter is absolutely right. When President Trump leaves office, his successor, whether Republican or Democrat, will waste no time in erasing any and all evidence of this embarrassing administration.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 06:39 AM
TKO
 
Location: On the Border
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Wow, she seems salty. Probably ruffled because she's not part of Trump's inner circle.

It was never about the wall. I knew the chances of building a physical wall was slim, but it is the mindset of a wall, of Mexico taking more responsibility for the southern border and getting tougher on sanctuary cities and illegal immigrants. Those things are happening.

I laugh at those that expected a typical 'presidential' Donald Trump. I never wanted that when I voted for him. I wanted a troublemaker, a rule breaker... someone who would throw hand grenades into the finely-starch bureaucracy and make all those stiff-shirts reaching for their gold-plated pill bottles of Xanax. Donald Trump was the punishment for years of indecision and stagnation.

Why? Because Donald Trump doesn't care. If he is no longer President in 2020, he'll still be a fabulously rich business owner. He has nothing to lose.

My taxes have gone down, my 401k is up and I have received a rise at my job... these are directly because of Donald Trump. He showed the world that the world wouldn't end if he actually moved the embassy to Jerusalem, while all past Presidents dared not to rock the boat.

Meh, he'll be voted out of office or they'll force him out. Either way he's done what I wanted him to do. If it all ended now I'm happy with the shake-up. In fact, he may have raised the bar to a sufficient height that he's built more room for future Presidents to look moderate in comparison.
I get that, disagree wholeheartedly, but I get it and he certainly deliver on the rock the boat part. But I wonder (and worry) about precedent and what you're going to feel like when the other side elects someone equally as belligerent. It seems a little childish to me and in the end self-defeating. We have manners, convention and all these irritating things because, over history, we've learned that belligerence feels good for a time but gets nothing done and in fact usually sets us back. The getting done part happens when we actually do work together and do not conflate the opposition into being the "evil other".
 
Old 12-01-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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I get that, disagree wholeheartedly, but I get it and he certainly deliver on the rock the boat part. But I wonder (and worry) about precedent and what you're going to feel like when the other side elects someone equally as belligerent. It seems a little childish to me and in the end self-defeating. We have manners, convention and all these irritating things because, over history, we've learned that belligerence feels good for a time but gets nothing done and in fact usually sets us back. The getting done part happens when we actually do work together and do not conflate the opposition into being the "evil other".
Make no mistake about it....today's left IS the "evil other", are mortal enemies of freedom, and the gravest threat ever faced in our history to our country's future.

You're so accustomed to scripted, canned, straight-jacketed, place-holder politicians that you're confusing honesty with belligerence. Honesty in Presidential politics is shocking today because most of the population has never seen any. And Trump's greatest contribution thus far, one that dwarf's the entirety of accomplishment of at very least the last 9 of his predecessors, is to have shined a bright, honest light on how far we drifted from our national ideals and to have obliterated the PC straight-jacket that had most of us resigned to a future of decline and depression, both economic and psychological.
 
Old 12-01-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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Well, I've never thought she had any grasp on reality - somehow, she convinced herself that Trump would actually prove up on anything he said - so I'm sure we'll have an R president again. But still - this makes me laugh.
She may be right about never seeing another R president, but not for the reasons she thinks. It's hard to see what will be left of the GOP after Trump. All the sane Republicans have fled the party, and the Trump supporters who remain aren't likely to vote for any establishment Republican in the future. I see one or more new parties emerging from the wreckage that is the Trump presidency.

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Another good quote - "We needed Reagan and got P.T. Barnum instead."
Good to see a few rightists finally realizing this truth.
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