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This portrayal of Jews as helpless and innocent victims who merely became scapegoats for Hitler's rage, is simply not true. The Jews, like today, were the bankers and the capitalists...
So the German Jews got rich by making loans to Germany's enemies in WWI...
You appear to be rationalizing the systematic murder of Jews in occupied Eastern Europe by calling them German bankers. Please tell me I'm reading this wrong.
Please try not to define my political posture. It resembles that of Che Guevera, the Symbionese Liberation Army and Seminora Luminoso, or Shining Path.
Its actually El Sendero Luminoso. If you're going to be a revolutionary, at least get your Commie terrorist groups right.
Nazism, like communism, wasn't a purely German phenomenon. Nationalism had been rising across Europe and across the world since the 1800's. National-Socialism was the wedding of the "left-wing"(IE welfare state) with the "right-wing"(IE traditionalism).
Nazism was made for export, which is why even to this day, you have things like Japanese Nazis.
You even have Persian Nazis, and in the Middle-East, one of the most-common reading material for sale is actually Henry Ford's "The International Jew".
In fact, Persia renamed itself Iran because it was part of the "Indo-European" language family, on which Germany developed his concept of "Aryanism" from. Iran was similar to Aryan, and Iran wanted to develop closer ties with Germany.
Hitler had hoped to ally with Britain, either through King Edward, or with people like Sir Oswald Mosley. And he had been talking about it for more than 20 years.
You appear to be rationalizing the systematic murder of Jews in occupied Eastern Europe by calling them German bankers. Please tell me I'm reading this wrong.
There is a huge difference between understanding why people hate Jews and calling for genocide.
I merely reject this fallacy that the Jews were innocent little victims who were only hated because of jealousy, or because of some kind of religious insanity on the part of Christians/Muslims/etc.
I am trying to explain to you people, that the world is a complicated place. The more-simple the narrative, the more-likely it is wrong.
As Hegel famously said...
"Genuine tragedies in the world are not conflicts between right and wrong. They are conflicts between two rights."
The Germans, just like the Americans, were both right and wrong in their own ways. Portraying anyone as "evil" is just ignorance. Everyone imagines themselves the good guy in their story, and they almost always have a perfectly-good reason for it.
We can only judge people based on a standard, but who sets the standard? Was Stalin evil? Was Mao evil? Was Hitler evil? No, no, and no. But we like to believe it, because the world is simpler that way. We're the good guy, and they're the bad guy, so whatever we do is justified.
The world doesn't consist of black hats and white hats, there are only grey hats. I'm just trying to get people to think for themselves, instead of just regurgitating the crap your governments and corporate-media tell you.
My friend always calls me a "devil's advocate", because I'll seemingly defend both sides in every discussion. Why? Because both sides are right, and both sides are wrong. So when someone is attacking them wrongly, I'll show where they are right. And if someone is defending them wrongly, I'll show where they are wrong. I could complain about the Nazis just as much as I can defend them, because I see them for what they are, human.
Nazism, like communism, wasn't a purely German phenomenon. Nationalism had been rising across Europe and across the world since the 1800's. National-Socialism was the wedding of the "left-wing"(IE welfare state) with the "right-wing"(IE traditionalism).
Nazism was made for export, which is why even to this day, you have things like Japanese Nazis.
You even have Persian Nazis, and in the Middle-East, one of the most-common reading material for sale is actually Henry Ford's "The International Jew".
In fact, Persia renamed itself Iran because it was part of the "Indo-European" language family, on which Germany developed his concept of "Aryanism" from. Iran was similar to Aryan, and Iran wanted to develop closer ties with Germany.
Hitler had hoped to ally with Britain, either through King Edward, or with people like Sir Oswald Mosley. And he had been talking about it for more than 20 years.
Reza Shah, before he was overthrown, was very pro-Hitler, like many of the nationalist following Ataturk.
He considered him a great inspiration. My dad told me this joke once; Hitler invited Reza Shah to Berlin and gave him a tour of all the new construction, beauty, and architecture of the city. Then they came to the Reichstag. Hitler showed him to the top of the building where underneath a brigade of the Wehrmacht stood prepared for orders. Hitler told Reza Shah that his people and his army had the upmost loyalty and respect for him, and that they valued his life over their own. In demonstration he dropped a feather, it slowly came down until it sat right next to a soldier in the front. Almost immediately that soldier got up and shot himself in the head.
Reza Shah was embarrassed and intimidated by this display of authority, and wanted to impress Hitler in return.
Some time later, Reza Shah extend an invitation to Hitler to come and visit Tehran in an official capacity. Hitler accepted and the date was set. In preparation he set up an entire military parade for Hitler, and had the city dressed up in its most pristine display of Persian culture. As the state visit came to a close, Reza Shah invited Hitler to meet him at the top of a tower outside the city. They went to the top where tea was being prepared. Reza Shah showed Hitler to the roof top where underneath a group of imperial soldiers stood. Reza Shah told Hitler that his people and his army had the upmost loyalty and respect for him, and that they valued his life over their own. To demonstrate this he produced a feather from his pocket and dropped it down the winding tower. As it slowly fell, they went back inside the tower. Hearing the whistle of air, the Shah thought the tea was ready. Hitler smiling for the first time shook his head and said he believed the noise was coming from outside. As they went out, they looked down and saw a soldier on his knees blowing at the feather trying to keep it in the air.
One of the nuances of WW2 that is not well understood is that Hitler did in fact not have any interest in fighting with Britain and not much with France either. He had designs on Poland since a lot of ethnic Germans lived in the western part of Poland that was lost after WW1. (He goes into this extensively in Mein Kampf).
For whatever reason Churchill especially was itchy for a fight with Germany and was prepared to use any excuse he could get his hands on to start one. The point is that the "defense of Poland" excuse was a canard. Poland ended up an occupied country anyway for the next 40+ years by the Soviets and nobody really cared. (So much for that idea)
Nazism, like communism, wasn't a purely German phenomenon. Nationalism had been rising across Europe and across the world since the 1800's. National-Socialism was the wedding of the "left-wing"(IE welfare state) with the "right-wing"(IE traditionalism).
Nazism was made for export, which is why even to this day, you have things like Japanese Nazis.
You even have Persian Nazis, and in the Middle-East, one of the most-common reading material for sale is actually Henry Ford's "The International Jew".
In fact, Persia renamed itself Iran because it was part of the "Indo-European" language family, on which Germany developed his concept of "Aryanism" from. Iran was similar to Aryan, and Iran wanted to develop closer ties with Germany.
Hitler had hoped to ally with Britain, either through King Edward, or with people like Sir Oswald Mosley. And he had been talking about it for more than 20 years.
The more simple minded among us just don't much like it when you complicate a good bedtime story with reality. Anything that strays too far from the company line that "The National Socialists were the 'bad guys' and we were the 'good guys' who saved the world from them" is bound to get some sideways glances in real life (On the internet you're immediately a Nazi sympathizer and an anti-Semite which is always fun). That is to say, the Allies have done a very good job of burying this one and propagandizing everyone to death in the decades since.
Oh, thank you. No one has ever pointed that out before.
People are complicited, actions are not, that is what you don’t understand.
People are subjective and therefore can be split in to the ‘good’ guys and ‘bad’ guys by the state for you to understand.
Actions are non-malleable and therefore must be presented as complicited. You can differentiate between a US president and a US enemy by what you’re told, but actions must be considered intricate in nature as to obfuscate the truth.
You can tell that the silent genocide in Guatemala is a great evil, and therefore would weaken US authority, that is why the actions that can be seen as comparable must be contextual.
You can be told the Nazis are bad, but to make sure you don’t question that assessment the actions that are the same (civilian bombings, etc.) as our side must be complicated so that you perceive such atrocities as morally gray.
Just as in Nicaragua the media must differentiate crimes of the Sandinistas and El Salvador as one the US supported, and the other it opposed.
People are complicited, actions are not, that is what you don’t understand.
I don't? Man, I'm learning so much! Or would, if the insights and knowledge matched the attitude on display. I'll leave you guys to pat each other's backs.
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