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Originally Posted by Wapasha
Call it a wall a fence or whatever. It's not a lie when we discuss border enforcement and make reference to walls or fences as a part of the discussion. You make a weak argument when you resort to playing with semantics. Awe, the "millionth time," really?
You and your friend keep harping on a 2006 wall law. Links to that law have been repeatedly posted. F E N C E does not spell wall. Calling a fence a wall doesn't make it a wall. The Republicans haven't had the votes to pass this boondoggle in 2 years or they would have done it, and no, I don't want open borders. I am not a registered Democrat. I want immigration laws fixed and people treated like human beings, not worse than animals.
They just released 2008 figures? You should read your source before you post it, the date on that ajc.com piece is 2010. The Washington Examiner stuff is from CIS/FAIRUS - run by the RWNJ John Tanton and has been repeatedly discredited.
Washington Examiner?
Also, the undocumented immigrant population is not swelling. It's been declining since 2010.
A whole decade? We need the wall now! Why are they balking at a mere $5 billion now then? We can still focus on the other illegal aliens in this country while not giving the DACAs special treatment. It would be rewarding their parents for bringing them here illegally and the DACAs would also benefit from that if we granted them amnesty and a path to citizenship. We don't need the additional 1.8 million DACAs competing for jobs and resource against Americans either. They need to go back to their homelands with their parents and go through the legal process just like everyone else.
Even if he had full funding right now it would be over a decade before the wall could be finished or even started on in some areas. There are still eminent domain cases pending from the Bush era secure fence act.
If people think a wall won't keep people out, read this article...
It kept over 1000 people out...
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How effective is this new border wall? On Sunday, when a violent mob of 1,000 people stormed our Southern border, we found the newly constructed portions of the wall to be very effective.
Also, the undocumented immigrant population is not swelling. It's been declining since 2010.
Farther back than that with circular migration. Circular migration is on the decline today, as well as, a rise in new naturalized citizens finishing up their paper work and taking their oath.
The amount of civics they had to take ... we have now gained from all this mess, people more educated in civics than latest college graduate.
You and your friend keep harping on a 2006 wall law. Links to that law have been repeatedly posted. F E N C E does not spell wall. Calling a fence a wall doesn't make it a wall. The Republicans haven't had the votes to pass this boondoggle in 2 years or they would have done it, and no, I don't want open borders. I am not a registered Democrat. I want immigration laws fixed and people treated like human beings, not worse than animals.
Tell us something we don't know such as there are many sell out Republicans in congress that won't support anything Trump wants and of course the Democrats don't want the wall as I doesn't fit their agenda.
Our laws don't need fixing they need enforcing and more security at our border. Who's not being treated as a human being and worse than animals? What are you talking about?
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
Tell us something we don't know such as there are many sell out Republicans in congress that won't support anything Trump wants and of course the Democrats don't want the wall as I doesn't fit their agenda.
Our laws don't need fixing they need enforcing and more security at our border. Who's not being treated as a human being and worse than animals? What are you talking about?
A 7 year old little girl & her father were picked up. After being held for 8 hours the little girl went into convulsions & died of exhaustion and dehydration. In 8 hours they didn't offer a scared little girl a glass of water. Had they picked up a stray dog they would have given the dog water. You must be proud.
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Awe, the "millionth time," really?
